Open Thread: Someday Or One Day Episodes 3 & 4

Welcome to the Open Thread, everyone! I just had to have this shot headline our post today, because it’s such an iconic moment in the show. Also, I love how happy all three of them look, as they pose for the photo together. 🤩

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS, before we begin:

1. ZERO SPOILER POLICY ON THE OPEN THREAD

We will be adopting a ZERO SPOILER POLICY for this Open Thread, except for events that have happened in the show, up to this point.

The spoiler tags don’t work in email notifications, therefore, please take note that WE WILL NOT BE USING SPOILER TAGS FOR THIS OPEN THREAD. ANY AND ALL SPOILERS WILL BE REDACTED to protect first-time viewers in our midst (although, I’d appreciate it if you would save me the trouble of having to redact spoilers, heh 😅).

*This includes (but is not limited to) how characters or relationships evolve over the course of the story. Just pretend that this is Past You, on this Open Thread!*

2. SPOILER ZONE AVAILABLE

HOWEVER!! If you’d like to discuss spoilers from a rewatcher’s point of view, I’ve created a SPOILER ZONE for you, where you can discuss all the spoilers you’d like, without the need for spoiler warnings. You can find it here!

Edited to add! No Open Thread next week; we are taking a break for Christmas! Next Open Thread will be on 1 Jan 2022!!

Without further ado, here are my reactions to this set of episodes; have fun in the Open Thread, everyone! ❤️

My thoughts

Episode 3

Oh. My. Goodness. Listen, I know I’ve seen this show before, but I’m still blown away by just how good it is. Can all dramas be this good, pretty please? 🤩🤩

I love how Show plays with our perception, and does it so well. I mean, on my first watch, Show really had me going for a while there, with Yuxuan settling into Yunru’s life, and coming to terms with the idea that everything about being Huang Yuxuan, and being in love with Wang Quansheng, had been a long and detailed dream that she’d had, while unconscious.

I’d seriously started to believe that narrative, and started to adjust my understanding of our story – until Show brings everything back into focus at the end, when Yuxuan wakes back up, in her own body, in Taipei.

Just, WOW. EXCELLENTLY PLAYED, SHOW.

But first, let me back up, because there are other things which I love about how Show handles itself, this episode.

One of the biggest things I appreciate, is how it makes complete sense to Yunru’s friends and family, that she’s acting a bit weirdly. After all, she’s suffering from a serious head injury, so it makes sense that she might forget things, or get confused about things.

Plus, there’s how Show gives Yuxuan access to Yunru’s memories, such that she can plausibly pull off being Yunru, by tapping on those memories, and the general knowledge of Yunru’s world.

On that note, I do find it quite intriguing, that we see Yunru in what appears to be some kind of prison, where she seems to be able to hear what Yuxuan hears, like when she hears Ziwei talking to Yuxuan at the hospital. Also, she seems to have access to Yuxuan’s memories, because we see Yunru gazing upon all those mental pictures of Yuxuan with Quansheng.

It seems reasonable to conclude that while Yuxuan is in control of Yunru’s body, Yunru’s still in there, just shoved away into a corner, in manner of speaking.

It also seems like Yunru’s able to communicate, to some extent, since, in the scene at the hospital, where Yuxuan asks where her mom and brother are, we first hear what I assume to be Yunru’s voice, asking the question first, “Where’s my mom and my brother?” – and that’s what prompts Yuxuan to actually give voice to the question.

But, back to my thought on Yuxuan in Yunru’s body – I am so amused by how thrown her mom and especially her brother are, with this new, much more outspoken and assertive version of Yunru. And the best part is, they can plausibly put this change in Yunru’s personality, down to Yunru’s head injury. Ha. Love that!

On a random tangent, the whole way that bandage is stuck onto Yuxuan’s hair, in such a flimsy manner, is kind of distracting, and totally unrealistic. But y’know, Show is so good on just about every other front, that I’m very willing to close my eyes to these imperfections, and just roll with it.

I have to admit that I got a great deal of satisfaction, watching Yuxuan shock Siyuan, with Yunru’s stronger, much more self-assured personality. I mean, he’s been really quite annoying, particularly in the bratty way he talks back to his sister, and this felt like pretty excellent payback.

I just love how effortlessly Yuxuan gets him to toe the line, and stop being so rude and insolent. The world does not revolve around you, dude. 😏

I also love the detail, that Yuxuan feels rather detached from Yunru’s memories, even though she has access to them. It feels pitch perfect, that she wouldn’t feel personally invested in those memories, even though they are literally coming out of her head.

And, on that note, I love how Alice Ke interprets Yuxuan-as-Yunru; she’s always got a slightly detached, quizzical air to her, as she navigates Yunru’s world.

I also like the fact that Yuxuan-as-Yunru is completely unmoved by Li Ziwei, even though he’s the spitting image of Wang Quansheng. I mean, she does forget herself, and address him by the wrong name, out of habit, but I like the fact that she doesn’t fall for Ziwei just because he looks just like Quansheng.

Even in the stretch of the episode where Yuxuan believes that she really is Yunru, and everything had just been a dream, she remains indifferent towards Ziwei, while her thoughts still sometimes linger on Quansheng.

This endears her to me, because it convinces me that her love for Quansheng doesn’t hinge on what he looks like; she’s drawn to him because of his person, and Ziwei is just.. a different person.

On a different note, I am loving the friendship between Ziwei and Junjie. I mean, there isn’t a moment when Junjie thinks that Ziwei likes Yunru, and wants to snatch her for himself. There’s an unshakable trust there, even when Junjie’s peeved and doesn’t want to talk to Ziwei. I love that.

What a difficult position for Ziwei to be in, though. Junjie blames him for being so harsh in rejecting Yunru, because if Ziwei had been gentler with her, Yunru would have likely felt comfortable enough to ask either of them for help, when she’d found her mother and brother missing.

That’s asking for a lot from Ziwei, in the sense that, how would he know the perfect level to pitch his rejection of Yunru? It’s not like he’s super experienced with these things, and it’s not like he’s the sensitive type, either.

However, I really appreciate how Ziwei reflects on his actions purely because of Junjie’s words, and therefore seeks out Yunru, to apologize to her. That willingness to consider a different perspective really does endear him to me.

As for Junjie, I freaking love his love confession to Yunru, after he drops her off at home. It’s so brave of him, to own his feelings like this, when before, he’d been so shy to approach Yunru.

The fact that he gathers up his courage to be so frank about his feelings, because of his feelings of regret after Yunru’s accident, really endears him to me too. I love a guy who chooses to be brave. ❤️

That beat, where we see the flashback of Junjie watching Yunru from afar in school, is so poignant. I love the idea that he feels a sense of similarity and solidarity with her; that he understands that she feels different, and wants to be the person who understands her, sees her, and hears her.

Oof. That is so touching, I feel like my heart might burst.

BUT THEN.

What is this, about the police finding a hearing aid at the location where Yunru had been attacked..?!? 😳 We only know of one hearing impaired person in this drama world, and that’s Junjie. But it can’t be Junjie.. can it..?

And there are those memories that come back, where we see that Yunru’s attacker is a boy in school uniform. Surely it can’t be Junjie..?

AND THEN.

Yuxuan’s (and our!) assumption that everything had been a dream comes crashing down, when she finds herself waking up in the bus where she’d fallen asleep – and we see CAKE DUDE, hurrying to hide himself from her. Unless Wang Quansheng somehow survived the plane crash (and aged significantly from the trauma), this is mostly likely Li Ziwei, right?!? 😱

Episode 4

I freaking love how this show works like some kind of kaleidoscope. Every time we are shown a scene subsequent to the first time we see it, there’s always some other kind of angle or layer or nugget that we gain from it.

This time, we see the bus journey from Cake Dude’s perspective, and in the moment, it’s all very confusing. His expressions speak of a deep yearning and wistfulness towards Yuxuan, so much so that he’d put on Quansheng’s old phone, and read all the messages that Yuxuan’s sent to that number in the 2 years since Quansheng’s passing &/or disappearance.

But then again, how curious, that when Yuxuan discovers that her messages have been read, and tries to call the number, Cake Dude refuses to pick up, saying to Uncle that Yuxuan isn’t looking for him, but for Wang Quansheng. That.. doesn’t really make a lot of sense, put together, does it?

I mean, if he’s not Quansheng, then he’s Li Ziwei, isn’t he? But if he’s Li Ziwei, why the accumulated depth of feeling, towards Yuxuan?

That scene where he reacts to hearing Yuxuan’s voice in the voice memos that she’s sent to Quansheng’s phone, is full of profound emotion (such an amazing scene by Greg Han, truly. 🤩). What is that about, and why does he have these emotions for her?

Also, how curious, that he blames himself for giving in to his feelings and reading those messages, “at such an important time,” as he says to Uncle. Why is this an important time..? And why does he appear to be staying at Uncle’s home, and why is Uncle keeping his secret for him?

It’s quite interesting, isn’t it, that Uncle’s keeping his secret for him, and yet, is pretty open with Yuxuan, when it comes to telling her that her dreams of Yunru, Ziwei and Junjie aren’t dreams, but reality? It doesn’t seem very consistent, does it? Why would he keep some things a secret, and yet, be so open about other, very much related things?

And then we are introduced to Psychiatrist Dude, who seems nice and harmless at first, but then DOESN’T. I mean, what the heck is that, with that old secret diary that appears to be full of articles about Yunru’s death? And he’s got photographs of Yunru tucked away in a box of their own, and those photos look like they’d been secretly taken. What in the world..??

It gives me chills, that Yuxuan is seeking psychiatric treatment from someone who definitely seems highly suspicious, and telling him her personal secrets so trustingly. 😬

ALSO. What is that standalone entry about, in the diary, that Yuxuan sees in 2019, where it states that “he” is Wang Quansheng..??

Yuxuan assumes that “he” must be referring to Li Ziwei and hurries back to 1998 to see him – but.. the math definitely doesn’t add up..? The age is just all wrong, and that makes piecing this together extremely fiddly.

There’s always at least a puzzle piece or two, that doesn’t fit, when trying to figure out how all of these pieces of information could possibly all co-exist and all make sense, in the same logic flow.

How interesting, that when she gets back to 1998, she re-enters the timeline a little earlier than when she’d left. It reminds me of when I stop an episode mid-way, and my video player resumes playing where I left off – but about a second or so earlier than where I actually stopped, as if to jog my memory a little bit. 😅

Y’know, all this also begs the question of whether time flows at the same speed in both timelines, doesn’t it? I mean, when Yuxuan returns to 2019, she actually spends several days there, and yet, when she returns to 1998, no actual time has passed.

ALSO, come to think of it, during Yuxuan’s first trip back to 1998, she spent several months there, but in 2019 time, only the span of a bus ride had passed. Innnteresting.. 🤔

I must say, though, I do enjoy the time that we spend in 1998.

I’ve grown fond of Ziwei and Junjie especially, although, this episode, it does look like things are rather strained between them.

Last episode, I’d just been saying that Junjie trusts Ziwei implicitly, but this episode, I’m somewhat dismayed to see them actually almost come to blows – over Yunru.

Like I said before, it’s tough to be in Ziwei’s position. When he doesn’t show enough concern for Yunru, Junjie gets upset. But when he does show concern for Yunru, Junjie bristles. And it’s not like Ziwei’s the super diplomatic sort. He’s a bit rough around the edges, and I certainly wouldn’t expect him to know how to tread delicately between Junjie and Yunru, in this situation.

I feel for both of them, honestly. Junjie’s sincere in his feelings towards Yunru, and he’s put his heart out there, by telling her how he feels about her. But at the same time, he’s cognizant of the fact that she still (presumably) has feelings for Ziwei.

That’s tough. I can understand why he’d have feelings of resentment towards Ziwei, in this situation.

But it’s tough to be Ziwei too, like I’ve said, and I feel for him, as he broods alone at home, feeling rejected by his best friend, and possibly slightly confused at his own growing concern for Yunru.

I do think that his chosen solution, which is to talk things out with Yunru, is a pretty good choice. He’s making a conscious decision to reframe how he thinks about Yunru, and wants her to also consciously reframe how she sees him.

That is Ziwei’s way of honoring his friendship with Junjie, and I really do appreciate that. I mean, he’s putting away any potentially confusing feelings about Yunru, because he wants to put Junjie first. That’s really loving, isn’t it?

But that final scene, though, where they both lie down on the grass, is so.. hesitantly tender, that I can’t help but feel a connection between Ziwei and Yuxuan.

He looks at her, and watching her sleep, slowly blinks, and says, “When I saw you yesterday, coming to find me after crying, I don’t know why, I started to feel sad too. The whole day, no matter what I was doing, I kept thinking about you crying. Why did you look at me and cry so sadly?”

And she, waking up, looks at his sleeping face and thinks, rather wistfully, “You obviously are not him. But why do you both look alike and have the same voice? And have the exact same facial expressions?”

Augh. I can practically feel this connection leaping off my screen, as he opens his eyes, and looks right into hers. 🤩

But.. IS he Wang Quansheng like the diary entry states, and what is Yuxuan supposed to do, with all of this conflicting information? And also.. how is she supposed to make her way back to 2019..?

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JJ
JJ
9 months ago
Reply to  kfangurl

@KFG – GAH! How are we supposed to wait and NOT binge during the break. So can we watch 4 episodes then and be all caught up by Jan 1st?!?!!?! LOL 😂😂😂😂

JJ
JJ
9 months ago
Reply to  kfangurl

@KFG – It was worth a try 😇

CarpControl
CarpControl
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ

Maybe you could re-watch just 5/6 for the post-Christmas posts, and hang around in the spoiler-section with us?😇 Holding out is superrrr-tough!😭 I am in awe of those who live-watched this ONCE a week. To be fair, they too skipped a week because of the Chinese New Year back in 2020~~

Okay… on a second thought, I think whoever hasn’t been caught up to the finale should avoid spoiler-zone posts. We bring in points from everywhere, and it’s literally verbal vomit and brain-poo all over the place! (me, I’m the one responsible for most of the reckless rampage!) 🤣

Snow Flower
Snow Flower
8 months ago

Just stopping by to express appreciation for poor Junkie, the thoughtful introvert.

J3ffc
J3ffc
9 months ago

Apart from the time skips and doppelgängers (one of my fave words ever), I am so impressed with the Alice Ke’s and the writer’s master study on grief. On the surface, Yuxuan is so put together with her stylish clothes and perfect coif, but it is so evident that she’s going through life’s motions and unable to let go.

Ele Nash
9 months ago

Argh! I finally caught up on episode four after my VPN fell into a coma and wouldn’t bleeding well work for three agonising days 😭 So, suffice to say, I greedily lapped it up once my VPN awoke in 1998, singing a lovely song on its Walkman, and I could find out what on earth is going on… Oh, no, wait, I am still totally clueless 😆

My thoughts are as ramshackle as the switches in time / people / souls / ages… For what it’s worth, my number one theory is this:
Wang Quansheng is ZiWei 🤯 Yes, I know the diary says that – and, like Yuxuan, we end up doubting it – but that’s the twist, it’s true 😊 He was always ZiWei and ZiWei, while actually born in, what 1982-ish(?) time jumped in 1999 after poor Yunru gets murdered (by Dr guy – eek??!! Side theory: Dr as a student was the one who attacked Yunru and put her in a coma – of course it wasn’t our gorgeous Junjie 😍)
Anyway, ZiWei time-travelled to, what, 2013ish, to meet Yuxuan who he fell in love with back in 1998 when she occupied Yunru’s body (other side theory being Junjie is framed for Yunru’s murder and only Yuxuan can prove it wasn’t him – when she gets to remembering it was evil Dr guy 😜).
Does that make any sense? I know what I mean! I reckon ZiWei is one person whereas Yunru and Yuxuan are doppelgangers – but when ZiWei / Quansheng fell in love with Yunru, he eventually realises it was Yuxuan from the future so he travels in time (I don’t know how!!) so he can meet Yuxuan as herself.
Final theory (bear with me) is that ZiWei / AKA Quansheng never died in the plane crash, he time jumped time to the future and has only just been able to get back again, which is why he looks broken.

Phew. I feel better for writing that down 😅 Well, not sure on the last part. But it’s weird ZiWei has Quansheng’s phone in 2019 and it’s weird the mother at Quansheng’s funeral said no photos of Quansheng as a child because he didn’t smile until he met Yuxuan – and it’s also weird how they keep saying in 1998 Quansheng and Yuxuan were five but, hey, let’s see them then! And Cake Guy (AKA ZiWei, AKA Quansheng) looks way young still – scarred but not like nearly forty, right? Time travel, you don’t age you see 😊 Seventeen-ish in 1999, and jumps to 2013-ish and is still like that kind of age, and jumps to the future, has a bit of trouble and time jumps back again and, yeah, looks a bit older, like thirty max.

If my theory / theories / theorems (what is the plural?!) is a stroke of genius and is actually a spoiler, then I am a writer of time travel so, you know, I think I travelled in time to get this plot 😏 And if it’s totally incomprehensible and utterly wrong, I didn’t write this show and it’s super confusing and… Oh, it’s good though, isn’t it?! Loving it!

manukajoe
manukajoe
9 months ago

Hi all. Glad there’s two weeks until the next check in, as it’s hard to keep up. We watched Ep3/4 in the weekend and really enjoying it. So funny sometimes. Kao this, kao that!

Cake guy (assumed to be Li Ziwei?) sure does a lot of walking around for a guy with an injury 😀

Man those 2019 office mates are terrible!!! I guess you gotta understand Taiwan culture to understand why they would do it so goofy like that.

So many feels as well.

I’m also loving the music even more this time, as I notice how they use different arrangements of the opening and ending songs to create different moods.

Ele Nash
9 months ago
Reply to  manukajoe

The office of 2019 is not a place I ever want to time-travel to 😅

Elaine Phua
Elaine Phua
9 months ago

Well, I’m already falling behind on my plan to keep up with these two group rewatches! It is confirming my personal preference to be one-track both in work and also in leisure, I prefer to immerse in one show or one book at a time rather than juggling multiple fiction works! While getting immersed in My Mister I didn’t appreciate the tonal shift in Ep 3 of Someday One Day. The first time I watched Someday One Day I was amused at how take-charge Yuxuan was plonked into Yunru’s life, now her “Wah kao this” and “Wah kao that” right after coming home from the hospital seems too jarring. Think I will take my time with My Mister (first watch) then see if I get around to rewatching Someday! Lol.

CarpControl
CarpControl
9 months ago

Hello KFG, thank you for making Saturdays my favorite day of the week once again! I agree with you on the story being set-up intentionally as an unreliable narration. You think you know something, and the next minute you’re questioning if 2+2 is indeed 4?🙈😅 Beckoning my Past-Meto talk further, minus spoilers…🤣

I half-want to agree with Yu Xuan, as she thinks incredulously if indeed her life with WQS was a sweet dream, and she was Chen Yu Ru all along? Why I cannot fully accept it is cuz Yu Xuan herself stated she was a 5 y/o toddler in 1998. How could that be true, then? I hold onto this piece of info with all my might.
We see Cake-Dude on the bus, but everything that happens subsequently, indicates he could be either LZW or WQS, but there is always this ONE contradiction that keeps us from settling on an answer. And what’s up with the ‘he’s Wang Quan Sheng‘ line? I feel an oncoming brain-melt if I don’t get answers soon.

That line however, (even if it’s a red-herring…) is really special to me in the narrative sequence! I love how YuXuan does a double-take on what she knows, & feels around LZW, immediately after that. It felt weird seeing her act detached around LZW initially. (First, okay he’s a kid, and she’s the adult, so that’s respectful boundaries. Next, she believes LZW, or any of this ‘mindscape’ thing, isn’t likely ‘real‘). 
But upon reading that line in the diary, I’m tearing up seeing how she instantly rushes to school to see him (see LZW or see WQS…? I don’t know anymore, and I think deep-down, Yu Xuan doesn’t either! On the bus, the green-coat dude… who does Yu Xuan want that Cake-Dude to be? Surely, she thinks she’s chasing after WQS on that pavement?). 😭

Anyhow, seeing the boy goof around makes Yu Xuan cry because that line in the diary has already changed her. Had she just treated him as an adolescent LZW, it wouldn’t have affected her as much. I think, this is the beginning where she genuinely starts seeing LZW in a veryyy different light, maybe even in the same light as she saw WQS? About how Cake-Dude/ LZW/ and WQS are inter-connected, I still have no idea. But I believe the show is selling the concept of love transcending identity nomenclatures & labels nicely! And I still grab my pillow to weep silently, because Cake-Dude & goofy, rooftop-teenager aside, nothing changes the fact that WQS is very much dead because of a plane-crash.’
😭💔💔

Last edited 9 months ago by CarpControl
CarpControl
CarpControl
9 months ago
Reply to  kfangurl

You’re right. I really do not know why I take ‘WQS being dead‘ as the ultimate truth, when I cannot trust the show as they imply Cake-Dude ‘isn’t WQS‘. 😜 For all we know, WQS made it out alive from the plane-wreckage…🙏🏽🙈
I half-expect them to spin facts 180-degrees, because the writers are masters of delivering facts in ep1, disproving them in ep2, and then somehow proving them right in ep3 (the whole Yun-Ru/ Yu-Xuan thing)😅

Gloglo
Gloglo
9 months ago

Ep 3 
So it seems that the Walkman and the pop song connects the doppelgängers. 

Was I right in one of my speculations and YX’s 2019 is just a dream of YU during her comma? 😳 Although you could also say that YR is dormant in her own body where the soul of YX is momentarily staying… oh my god I cannot stop speculating! Please, make me stop! 😆

Oh I loved YX in YR’s body fighting with ZW! That’s such a great dynamic. YX/YR telling ZW she likes QS and not him is gold. ZW is so self-centred and so obvious. I have to admit I find him rather cute…This kind of conceited types are very entertaining in fiction 😊 And I suppose he’s just a kid. He has a lot to learn.

The second lead is very cute too… He does feel more suited to the real YR than ZW. Is this where the 1997 story is going? 

Wait, what? It turns out that YX in 2019 may be dreaming about being YR! My mind is blown. She woke up in the bus where she was listening to that old pop song and, once more, she saw the green coat guy (who I imagine is ZW in his late thirties)… ugh how tragic!
Really looking forward to ep 4!!

Ep 4
Well, the green coat guy looks too young. He’s not in his late thirties… is this then the body of QS and the soul of YR? I cannot stop trying to guess, but I don’t mind it so much now, because the characters are so heartwarming and that’s making me trust the writing more. The direction and production look quite cinematic, which surprises me a little because the Taiwanese shows I’ve see before, although always quite good in story, were painfully low budget.

Green coat has a timeline on the wall! Did he travel to the future?

Yes, green coat is definitelyZW, although he must be in SQ’s injured body after the plane accident, because he looks young… or is he the real LZ? OMG what’s going on?!

Why do I get the feeling that the world of 2019 is too cartoonish with OTT work colleagues and weird apps, virtual reality, doppelgängers and weird visits to mediums? Is this a real world or is it a dream? Still speculating…

Don’t tell me JJ is QS in 1998! it crossed my mind before but maybe that’s the body where QS went… let’s keep watching this, but oh my I still have no clue of what’s happening. 

ZW in 1998 is SO CUTE even though he’s so teenagery and gross… He’s just a very young man, I suppose. He reminds me of my son and his friends when they were his age: There is bravado but there is also innocence. 

JJ the murderer?! I don’t think so. It seems that the creepy psychiatrist from 2019 is the real murderer but how so? And why? Wasn’t he one of the students in ep 2 or 3, who was looking at YR from a distance in 1998?

Questions, questions, but I don’t mind them so much right now, as I’m getting really invested in all these characters. You were right once more, kfangirl! 👍

Natalia
Natalia
9 months ago

I am SO relieved we get a break for Christmas, I haven’t done my homework this week (blame it on My Mister…) and I’m behind schedule! Hopefully I will catch up during the holidays! (I sort of feel like a neglectful student…)

Gloglo
Gloglo
9 months ago

Ep 3 
So it seems that the Walkman and the pop song connects the doppelgängers. 

Was I right in one of my speculations and YX’s 2019 is just a dream of YU during her comma? 😳 Although you could also say that YR is dormant in her own body where the soul of YX is momentarily staying… oh my god I cannot stop speculating! Please, make me stop! 😆

Oh I loved YX in YR’s body fighting with ZW! That’s such a great dynamic. YX/YR telling ZW she likes QS and not him is gold.  ZW is so self-centred and so obvious. I have to admit I find him rather cute…This kind of conceited types are very entertaining in fiction 😊 And I suppose he’s just a kid. He has a lot to learn.

The second lead is very cute too… He does feel more suited to the real YR than ZW. Is this where the 1997 story is going? 

Wait, what? It turns out that YX in 2019 may be dreaming about being YR! My mind is blown. She woke up in the bus where she was listening to that old pop song and, once more,  she saw the green coat guy (who I imagine is ZW in his late thirties)… ugh how tragic!
Really looking forward to ep 4!!

Ep 4
Well, the green coat guy looks too young. He’s not in his late thirties… is this then the body of QS and the soul of YR? I cannot stop trying to guess, but I don’t mind it so much now, because the characters are so heartwarming and that’s making me trust the writing more. The direction and production look quite cinematic, which surprises me a little because the Taiwanese shows I’ve see before, although always quite good in story, were painfully low budget.

Green coat has a timeline on the wall! Did he travel to the future?

Yes, green coat is definitelyZW, although he must be in SQ’s injured body after the plane accident, because he looks young… or is he the real LZ? OMG what’s going on?!

Why do I get the feeling that the world of 2019 is too cartoonish with OTT work colleagues and weird apps, virtual reality, doppelgängers and weird visits to mediums? Is this a real world or is it a dream? Still speculating…

Don’t tell me JJ is QS in 1998! it crossed my mind before but maybe that’s the body where QS went… let’s keep watching this, but oh my I still have no clue of what’s happening. 

ZW in 1998 is SO CUTE even though he’s so teenagery and gross… He’s just a very young man, I suppose. He reminds me of my son and his friends when they were his age: There is bravado but there is also innocence. 

JJ the murderer?! I don’t think so. It seems that the creepy psychiatrist from 2019 is the real murderer but how so? And why? Wasn’t he one of the students in ep 2 or 3, who was looking at YR from a distance in 1998?

Questions, questions, but I don’t mind them so much right now, as I’m getting really invested in all these characters. You were right once more, kfangirl! 👍

CarpControl
CarpControl
9 months ago
Reply to  Gloglo

Hehe, it’s so adorable watching first-timers lose their marbles over trying to figure it out🤣. I was like that too, and I reckon everybody else was as well! I went all the way to proposing a wormhole! xD

>>ZW in 1998 is SO CUTE even though he’s so teenagery and gross… There is bravado but there is also innocence. <<
Amen. Greg Hsu is the only 30 y/o man who can play a High Schooler so convincingly. 😍Other than the dude who played Han Seojun in True Beauty!🔥

Gloglo
Gloglo
9 months ago
Reply to  CarpControl

Good to know that my confusion is entertaining someone lol! I’m going straight to watch 5 and 6, and I know it will be hard resisting the temptation to binge… But I will. First reactions to shows are priceless!

JJ
JJ
9 months ago

@KFG – Twice now in this Show I literally have yelled at the TV – “WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? NO WAY!” First time, when Ziwei was on the bus behind her. I did a total double take and was so surprised. I had thought that when she saw the older version of Ziwe/Wang Quanshengi walking she was actually seeing Wang Quansheng from a parallel universe because the veil had thinned because of her grief.

Then my second time of yelling at the TV was when the Show suggested that junjie is her attacker. WHAT? No, say that isnt so. So my brain is in over drive and need Shahz in on this one. Gotta keep her interested in this Show somehow!!! I think she grabbed the hearing aid off of Junjie’s ear when he pulled her out of the way of the car that was about to hit her. But who really attacked her? Dunno? Maybe her brother? Hmmmmm……..

JJ
JJ
9 months ago
Reply to  kfangurl

@KFG – YES! And I love how they give you just enough information to keep you interested and not frustrated. We are in my wheelhouse now of Fantasy Sci Fi and my wheels are spinning. I have to go back and watch the past four episodes again to see what I missed. Which is I guess what I can do during the break 🙂

JJ
JJ
9 months ago
Reply to  kfangurl

@KFG – Oh, thats so good to know. Maybe I will figure out whats really going on then 🙂

Oh he is such a cutie for sure with that smile of his 🙂

CarpControl
CarpControl
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ

>>I had thought that when she saw the older version of Ziwe/Wang Quanshengi walking she was actually seeing Wang Quansheng from a parallel universe because the veil had thinned because of her grief.<<
Ditto. Same reaction, even now!🙈

On my re-watch, I was like, okay, maybe she’s hallucinating from all her grief?!
And then, as the proponent of the ‘wormhole-theory‘, I thought, okay maybe the lift has a 32 for the 32nd floor, and 32 is the portal for parallel universes? And the Cake-Dude definitely crossed over, no wonder he looks significantly older than WQS who died on the plane crash in 2017.

Kim
Kim
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ

I feel you, I did the same thing of saying “what?” Several times in these first 4 episodes, especially these last 2. The first 2 were not so trippy but there were a couple spots I was wondering what was going on.
Normally I can kinda see where a show is headed, but in this one I am so confused(I like it) and can’t wait til I can safely watch more to figure out what is going on. This show is probably gonna be one I will have to go back and watch again. I have only done a full rewatch with a couple shows so far(one being Kill Me, Heal Me when the group watch was going on, the only place I could find it and be able to watch it was on Kocowa).

I am glad I went into this first watch the way KFG suggested, blind, I think if I had known what was gonna happen in these 4 episodes I might not be enjoying it as much as I am.