Open Thread: Alchemy of Souls Episodes 15-16

Welcome to the Open Thread, everyone! Thanks for joining this group watch! ❤️

As mentioned in the announcement post, these are my episode notes exactly as they originally appeared on Patreon.

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Without further ado, here are my reactions to this set of episodes. Have fun in the comments! ❤️

My thoughts

Episode 15

E15. On the downside, it feels like this episode wasn’t terribly exciting to watch. But on the upside, it does feel like Show knows where it wants to go, and this episode was firmly a part of the journey.

Also, again, I’m happy with how things can take sudden turns in our narrative, without actually breaking any of this drama’s internal rules.

Like how Master Lee does turn out to be a soul-shifter, after all.

Originally, I’d imagined that Master Lee had a youthful appearance, simply because of his training and magical prowess, but as it turns out, it was an accidental soul-shifting sort of situation, because Master Yeom had thought him dead while his soul had been out of his body, and burned his body.

Gosh. Is that a big whoopsie or what?? I’m surprised that all Master Yeom got was a knock on the head with Master Lee’s cane. 😜

This episode, there are three intersecting main arcs, which I thought were nicely handled, even though I didn’t find the episode itself especially gripping.

We’ve got Master Lee going to the palace and testing the waters with Gwigu, and looking like he’s come to some innnteresting conclusions around the Queen, since she’s the one who gets the most riled up at the idea of Gwigu becoming a resident of the palace.

I must say, though, the magicky face-off between Master Lee and Jin Mu is pretty cool. I rather like it every time Master Lee lets his magic lose, because it always looks so effortless.

All he has to do is wave his hand, and Jin Mu’s got a bunch of sharp magic icicles at his throat. So badass. 🤩😁

I’m actually really curious to know what Master Lee’s plan is.

Now that he’s determined that the Queen is suspiciously afraid of Gwigu, he asks the Crown Prince for Naksu’s sword.

Is he.. perhaps planning to help Naksu regain her power..?

And then we’ve got Mu Deok doing her best to deal with the fact that she’s being accused of murder.

It’s smart of her to seek Maidservant Kim’s help to take her to Jinyowon to ask Cho Yeon to be her witness and alibi, but.. it makes no sense to me that Cho Yeon would hide Mu Deok in Bu Yeon’s room while she talked with Madam Jin and Maidservant Kim.

I mean, I get that the idea is to have Mu Deok interact with Bu Yeon’s surroundings, but that was one of Show’s less natural beats.

However, I am intrigued by the fact that Mu Deok feels something while in Bu Yeon’s room.

And, that also makes me think of the times when Mu Deok had been able to tap into her power, which had then left her temporarily blinded.

I wonder if that blindness has anything to do with Bu Yeon? Like, is the way it works, something to do with Mu Deok tapping into Bu Yeon’s power, rather than her own?

And if so, perhaps that’s why it tends to come with the side effect of temporary blindness, until Mu Deok comes more to herself? 🤔

Also, Madam Jin’s not very good with the magic or the discernment, is she? After all, Mu Deok IS Bu Yeon.

I was thinking that perhaps Madam Jin would pick up on some clues, with Mu Deok in Bu Yeon’s room, and wearing that blindfold, to boot. But nope, so far, it seems like Madam Jin doesn’t suspect a thing.

Third, we’ve got So-I going around with Jin Mu’s assassin henchman, taking out all the people who’ve ever seen her face while she hadn’t been acting like a blind person.

I’m SO RELIEVED that she has the decency to not sic the assassin on Mu Deok, when she realizes that Mu Deok doesn’t recognize her.

In fact, I do think that So-I is a decent person at heart, because she’d tried to save the broker dude from being killed, even though he knew her face, and that, because she’d reasoned that he would leave the capital soon, and therefore wouldn’t be a threat.

For that reason, I do feel somewhat sorry for So-I, because Jin Mu’s just enclosing her in his death web more and more, with each step forward that she takes with him.

It’s true that she’s gotten quite a few people killed just for knowing her face, but by the end, she’s got a magical blood worm in her body, which will eat her alive from the inside out, if Jin Mu doesn’t keep it alive using magic.

That effectively makes her Jin Mu’s puppet, doesn’t it? Because if she doesn’t cooperate with Jin Mu, he would just let her get eaten alive by that wriggly blood worm?

Last but not least, I was pretty pleased with how Show handles the arc where Park Jin corners both Uk and Mu Deok, and forces them to confess their secret to him, with Mu Deok’s life as ransom.

I love that even under such dire circumstances, their thoughts flow together so seamlessly, such that they arrive at the same conclusion, without needing to discuss anything.

And, it’s a really nice way to pull the focus back to the OTP relationship as well, with both Uk and Mu Deok telling Park Jin that they like each other very, very much.

That’s pretty heart-wobbly stuff. 🥰

However, I have to confess that I’m getting a creeping sense of foreboding, because Mu Deok instructs Uk not to love her to the death; that if it ever were to come down to it, to choose life over love.

Uk’s being rather romantic now, in how he states so emphatically that he’s in this with her, and that he’ll keep going, no matter what (which, melt, really), but I can’t shake the feeling that the time is going to come soon enough, when this love will be put to the life-or-death test. Eep. 🫣

Episode 16

E16. We begin this episode with the scene of Uk and Mu Deok on the bridge, and perhaps my reservations are unfounded(?), since Show treats the scene with more of a light, almost comedic sort of touch?

I mean, it’s hard to think of death coming into their love promise, when Uk’s trying to coach Mu Deok on how to at look like she loves him to death. 😅

Also, I’m pleasantly surprised, actually, that Mu Deok’s asking Uk for some kind of promise to prove his love for her.

Sure, she does it with a rather squint-eyed, perplexed, suspicious expression on her face, which doesn’t exactly spell romance, but honestly, when I think about it, this is the first time that Mu Deok’s actually wanted a confirmation of Uk’s affection in any way, isn’t it?

That’s progress, on the OTP front?

On the other hand, the message that Master Lee leaves Uk, together with Naksu’s sword, does imply that death might come into the picture of this loveline, after all.

Because, Master Lee’s instruction to Uk, is to kill the person who tries to use the sword, or die.

Dang. That’s a tough one, isn’t it?

AND YET. It seems that Uk plans to stay true to his word, to love Mu Deok to the death, because the promise he asks her to make, is to first point the sword at him, if she were to ever unsheath it.

“When you regain your energy and if you must draw and point that sword at someone, point it at me before at anyone else.

If you stab me, then I will die as the one who released the assassin.

If you withdraw your sword, I will make you another promise. Something along the lines of the promise you wanted to hear from me about our future. I will look for the ice stone so you do not run wild because I promised to do so.”

Gosh, I do think that the swooniest thing about this OTP loveline, is how Uk loves Mu Deok.

Even though Master Lee’s made this dire pronouncement, Uk still gives Mu Deok a choice, instead of trying to control her actions.

He’s willing to die by her hand, if she wishes to draw the sword again. But, he also tells her the other options, which is to not draw her sword, and therefore not kill him – which is when he’ll be able to make her a love promise.

Aw. Uk. He really is all in, in his love for Mu Deok, isn’t he? 🥹

At the same time, this episode, we do get an indication of Mu Deok wavering, somewhat?

I mean, when she looks upon her sword, she does wonder to herself, if she’d still be able to slash people as relentlessly as she’d had before.

This is the first time we’ve seen Mu Deok waver like this, so perhaps there’s a chance that Mu Deok won’t want to go back to being Naksu, even when she regains her energy?

That would be excellent, because then Uk won’t be obliged to fight her and kill her. 😅

Elsewhere, the plot thickens.

First, Gwigu pinpoints Cho Yeon and attempts to pounce on her, most likely because Evil Dad had used the blood worm on her, and the traces of sorcery are still apparent on her.

Interesting how that works, though I’m not sure if it’s still going to be relevant, since Madam Jin basically kills Gwigu (poor doggo!) for trying to attack Cho Yeon.

At least Master Lee and Park Jin are now clear on the fact that the Queen’s working with Jin Mu, and can be vigilant accordingly.

This episode, I do feel rather bad for Yul, once we find out that he hasn’t been sleeping well, because it’s just that against his nature to not only keep Mu Deok’s secret, but work to help her as well.

I’m quite reasonably impressed with how Show is giving us a bit of side entertainment via the loveline between Dang Gu and Cho Yeon, while still using this loveline to further our story. That’s pretty great.

Of course, what I’m talking about is that beat where Cho Yeon asks Mu Deok to go back to Jinyowon with her, so that she can pick up her things.

Again, Mu Deok feels that weird feeling, when she comes into view of the entrance to Jinyowon.

I seriously wonder if it was Mu Deok who actually opened that door to Jinyowon, since there’s why more Jin blood running in her body than in So-I’s.

Also, now that So-I’s figured out that Mu Deok is the real Bu Yeon, I’m slightly nervous about what So-I’s going to do about it.

While she’s been reasonably compassionate to those who don’t pose a threat to her, now Mu Deok does pose a threat to her, and that changes everything, doesn’t it? 😬

I do love the thing where Uk and the Crown Prince end up working together, in their investigation around the soul shifting in the palace.

Their reluctant partnership might just never grow old, for me. They both look like they wish they could be working with anyone else in the entire world, and yet, there is no other choice, so they work together anyway, while looking kinda grumpy about it. It’s great. 😁

How interesting, that they find out that Shaman Choi’s brother had married a lady from a powerful family. Aha! That’s got to be Evil Dad, right?

No wonder he’s cooperating with Jin Mu; he’s working alongside his sister, who’s residing in the Queen’s body.

Also, that’s an interesting tidbit that we get from Evil Dad, this episode; that Bu Yeon’s not his biological daughter.

This begs the question of who Bu Yeon’s bio dad might be, then? I’m curious to know!

Finally, we have Jang Gang, back on the scene. Oooh.

I wonder how this is going to tilt out story world, because it has to, right?

Everything is different from how Jang Gang had left things, when he’d left. Now, not only has Uk’s energy gates been opened, he’s gained a lot more skill and power too. I wonder what Jang Gang would have to say about that?

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18 Comments
Haniczka
Haniczka
2 months ago

A few of my questions were answered in these episodes, like background on Shaman Choi and where the poor queen has landed. 😢

I love team Uk and Crown Prince. The old shaman asked if they were together, haha!

Is anyone else annoyed that So-I deliberately changed umbrellas to one Yul will recognize? Is she just vying for his attention since he’s her crush? Or, is she hoping he’ll come to her rescue? Either way, she’s deliberately putting him in danger.

j3ffc
j3ffc
2 months ago
Reply to  Haniczka

Good questions indeed. I knew that I was super confused about the ss-Queen situation on my first watch and that this time around being awake and all helped a lot.

I thought that at the point of the umbrella swap that So-I was under the delusion that she was going to become the Head of the House of Jamajimmajam (too lazy to look up the real name) and that she would make Yul her man. And in general I don’t think that So-I is too invested in how her actions affect others.

Kumari
2 months ago
Reply to  j3ffc

: I am just dropping in to say that this comment made me guffaw and also think of jjangmyeon 🙂

And as for So-I , yes I was very frustrated with her fixation on Seo-Yul and being oblivious to how her actions might affect others – especially after learning first hand how ruthless jin-mu and gang can be.

Haniczka
Haniczka
2 months ago
Reply to  Kumari

I laughed too!

RTF
RTF
2 months ago

I had gotten very behind on the group watch, thanks to work and kids, but I am back on track. I am not the biggest fan of Maidservant Kim and Park Jin part, dont’ find it particularly funny. But in general, as this is my first watch I am enjoying it a lot!

Ele
Ele
2 months ago
Reply to  RTF

Ha! I am not a fan of Park Jin either. He’s not very believable as a character to me – emotionally dense but then sometimes very astute, apparently powerful and yet is about as serious as Gwigu in doggy form begging for a tummy rub…

I Speak Korean Dramas
I Speak Korean Dramas
2 months ago

I had gotten behind on the group watch, and then while I was immobilized with a broken ankle I binge watched it all. Now I want to join in the group watch discussions but I’ll have to be careful not to include any spoilers. I don’t have anything particularly insightful to add for these episides, I just wanted to say I’m here and enjoying the discussion. It has been such a fruitful re-watch because of how complex it is. I can see myself watching it again at least once in the future. Like someone already said, I feel like I still don’t quite understand all the back story.

Last edited 2 months ago by I Speak Korean Dramas
j3ffc
j3ffc
2 months ago

@I Speak Korean Dramas – OMG, so sorry to hear about your ankle. I hope it’s on the mend that you’ve at least gotten to enjoy a few shows. Please do join us here when you can. It’s my second watch and I do think I understand things a lot better than the first time around. Staying awake helps, I think.

Take care of yourself!

MC
MC
2 months ago

sorry to hear about the ankle! i broke my toe bone two years back and it was so terribly painful. but it is useful for drama watching (once the initial pain wears off).

i too am enjoying my watch! loved the reluctant (very very reluctant) bromance most of all. i’ve come to enjoy Crown Prince a lot!

Last edited 2 months ago by MC
Deb
Deb
2 months ago

Ouch! Sorry to hear about your ankle. Don’t feel bad about binging…I resisted temptation for several weeks until I couldn’t stand it anymore, so I’ve done the same thing. But I am really enjoying the episode notes and everyone’s comments. I am appreciate the drama even more this second time around!

My
My
2 months ago

Jang Gang is such a strange character. Or rather, how others look at him is strange. He left his child for decades after taking away his energy. Instead a maid servant and a friend has to take care of Jang Uk. And still they seem to respect him and eagerly wait for his return. It seems a bit unclear why he ran away, maybe to search for Bu Yeon, which he failed doing. So he used sorcery , let the ice stone out in the world and didn’t take responsibility for anything. Not exactly employee of the year- he doesn’t even turn up at work!

J3ffc wants a show with the kid mages. I’d love one with the bromance of Uk and the Crown Prince!

MC
MC
2 months ago
Reply to  My

i just talked about the bromance in my earlier comment then i saw this. i would love a show with Uk Crown Prince and Mu Deok’s terrible flattery and obvious brown nosing!

Kumari
2 months ago
Reply to  My

@My: So in the prev episode when Maidservant Kim is discussing with Master Lee, she does mention that Jang Gang went in search of the daughter of Cho Chung after sealing Uk’s energy. It is because she thinks the daughter is dead that master Lee asks her to hold a memorial servive for both of them.

For Maidservant Kim, he was a loyal grieving husband, and friend who is out there searching for that lost girl, so she respects him. For Park Jin, he does acknowledge to Master Lee that Jang Gang’s dabbling in alchemy of souls was the biggest injustice to Uk.

In his head Jang Gang must have thought he was on his redemption journey – sealing the ice stone, blocking Uk’s energy to avoid the whole King Star prophecy and thus saving legitimacy of current King, going in search of Cho Chung’s daughter, but I agree with you, he is the most insufferable dad – punishing his son (the result of HIS stupid actions) under the pretense of protecting him. and on top of it he failed at ALL of the things he thought will redeem him.

My
My
2 months ago
Reply to  Kumari

@ MC, a show with Crown Prince and My Deok would be great, too! There are really so many options for spin offs here😊. Those shows could have quite short episodes, maybe 15-20 minutes and would bring joy to us all.

@ Kumari, you are much more forgiving to Jang Kang than I am. Your explanations for why people are liking him are very good. But he sure is a terrible father!

j3ffc
j3ffc
2 months ago

Is it just me, or was kid-Master Lee kinda creepy?

My dogs were very upset to see the fate of Gwigu.

I am curious: do our younger members even know the record-scratch sound they seem to love in this show? 

Yun-ok is such a lovely character.

The cross-conversations between Maidservant Kim and Park Jin continue to amuse. I am amazed at how the Hongs were able to come up with sufficiently ambiguous conversations to fuel these miscommunications. I wonder if they had so much fun doing this that they did “Can This Love Be Translated” just to keep the party going.

The who sequence of Mu Deok serving Cho-yeon is hilarious, from CY’s pickiness re dishes, to MD making the observation that Uk and Cho-yeon are perfect together in this way (and leading to the very Mu Deokian observation that this would have ended up with one of them dead). But it really sealed the deal with the hard-cut when MD flashed her eyes at CY. I would not want to be on the receiving end of one of her stares.

I would watch an entire show featuring kid-Uk, kid-Seo Yul, and kid-Dang-gu. “Li’l Mages”.

My
My
2 months ago
Reply to  j3ffc

The conversations between Maidservant Kim and Park Jin are so well written. No matter what Maidservant Kim says, Park Jin, our resident dense man, misunderstands. I guess she would have to announce I love Park Jin on the bulletin board for him to catch on.

Master Lee as a kid is creepy, but not as creepy as the priestess! Normally I would feel sympathy for a woman that lost her child, but she is rather nasty and obsessed. No wonder her daughter is rather mean to others.

enapeters
enapeters
2 months ago
Reply to  j3ffc

I loved kid Master Lee! That child actor was so good at pretending to be a crotchety old man who woke up in the wrong body.

My
My
2 months ago
Reply to  enapeters

Well, imagine waking up in the wrong body! I wouldn’t be just cranky. I think I would have been terrified and furious at the same time. But the child actor was so good at pretending to be an old man that he surely will have a great future in acting.