Welcome to the Open Thread, everyone!
This is the last one! 🥲
Which means, no more spoiler restrictions, finally! 😁
Without further ado, here are my reactions to this set of episodes. Have fun in the comments! ❤️
My thoughts
Episode 9
I really liked this penultimate episode, you guys.
I found it engaging and immersive, both on the emotional front, and on the macro, pulling-all-the-narrative-threads-together sort of front.
In that sense, it feels like Show is very balanced, at least at the moment.
On the emotional front, I love the built-in angst of Uk and Bu Yeon choosing to pretend, with that whole, “I know that you know that I know – but let’s pretend that I don’t know that you know that I know,” and every other available permutation of these words.
Show’s done a very solid job (at least for me), of building the emotional connection between Uk and Bu Yeon, this season, and I feel invested in what happens to their relationship.
And, Show’s done a good job of creating a situation where Uk’s technically obligated to kill Bu Yeon, once he becomes aware that she is a soul-shifter. AND, there’s also the thing, where Bu Yeon’s soul is supposed to leave her host body.
I want these two to have a happy ending, but can’t figure out how Show will give it to them (and us!), and right now, that’s a pretty good place to be, coz that’s definitely some important dramatic and emotional tension, right there. 😅
And, I still kinda swoon at the, “Only I am allowed to come this close.” 🫠

On another note, I am extremely tickled by the scenes of Uk and the Crown Prince, this episode.
Before watching this episode, someone shared an article on Patreon, where Lee Jae Wook talked about how his scenes with Shin Seung Ho had been heavily ad-libbed, with most of the ad-libs coming from Shin Seung Ho.
And now, watching their scenes together, which they have a lot of, this episode, I find myself supremely tickled by the idea that Shin Seung Ho’s just coming up with these lines, on the fly. 😁
My favorite Uk-Crown Prince moments this episode, are when Uk pats Crown Prince on the shoulder, to console him over the loss of his turtle, and also, when Crown Prince offers to analyze Uk’s situation with Bu Yeon, and Uk actually reluctantly opens up.
Also, this: “Despite owning an ice stone and reaching Hwansu, you have failed to win your wife’s heart. That power of yours is useless.”
Crown Prince’s furrowed brow, combined with his gossipy ahjumma sort of expression, just makes it really funny to me. 😁
This reluctant bromantic connection is absolutely becoming a highlight of my watch, and now I’m sad that I only have one more episode of this show to enjoy this.
In terms of our main narrative, I have to admit, I was really pleased to have Crown Prince confirm that he’s not actually in cahoots with Jin Mu, and is just playing along with Jin Mu, in order to learn his secrets and take him and his secret organization down.
YESS. My gut had insisted that Crown Prince wasn’t a bad dude, but the satisfaction of having it confirmed was still very excellent. 😁
I also really like the scene where Naksu / Bu Yeon talks with the Crown Prince, and they indirectly settle the grudge and angst between them.
I like how their conversation is gentle, and full of poignance, wistfulness and compassion. It feels right to me, that Naksu tells Crown Prince to be in pain, but only for a season, after which she’d like him to forget.
It just feels.. right, to me.

Also, I’m glad that Yul learns about the bell potion, and that Naksu / Mu Deok had been given the potion, thus explaining how and why she’d gone berserk the way she’d had, at the end of Season 1.
This feels like an important thread, because without it, Yul would continue to think of Naksu as a violent murderer, and that just doesn’t sit right, since she’d been under the influence of Jin Mu’s bell potion.
Show introduces an intriguing idea, this episode, that the soul that Madam Jin believes to be her daughter Bu Yeon, could actually be Jin Seol Ran herself, since Jin Seol Ran has also been blind from birth.
Intriguing.
Again, it’s that thing where a new piece of information fits so well into Show’s story world, that it just feels like another hidden door has been revealed, in this house with many rooms.
I’m not sure what to make of this, but I’m pretty certain that this will come into play, in the way Show wraps things up for the finale.
ALSO, while it would have been poetic justice for Jin Mu to waste away after having the energy sucked out of him by that ice stone, it makes more story sense, for him to find a new body in Yoon Oh, and come back stronger than ever, for a final showdown.
As we close out this episode, I’m on tenterhooks over Uk’s and Bu Yeon’s future together, even as they share those beautifully tender moments together.
I can’t help swooning though, even as I bite my nails over their future. 🫠🫠🫣🫣🫠🫠😅
I’m not super hot on the reveal that the King is actually a Jin Mu supporter, along with the rest of the Unanimous Assembly, coz this, while technically possible, doesn’t feel very organic, given all that we’ve been shown.
But ok, I get that this is probably in service of our Final Showdown, so bring it on, and bring it home, Show!
Episode 10
Hm. I’m gonna hafta say that I somehow feel a touch underwhelmed by this finale, even though Show wraps up everything and gives us a happy ending.
Overall, I feel like Show’s like a gymnast who delivered a very solid routine in the midst of a competition, and then, in the final somersault, wobbled a bit, in sticking the landing.
I’m trying to figure out what it is that’s underwhelming me, and I’m thinking that it’s definitely got something to do with Show leaning into the Drama of the overarching story, and pulling out all the stops there.
The whole apocalypse type of scenario was very dramatic, and us almost losing Park Jin and Maidservant Kim had me in disbelief for a bit (though I was admittedly less sad about Madam Jin, oops 😅).
But through a good chunk of this finale, I found myself feeling emotionally disconnected, somewhat, with our characters.
The balance that I’d found to be “just so,” in our penultimate episode, felt a bit off to my eyes, this finale, and as a result, the watch experience felt rather uneven, for me.
I think one reason for that, is, we open and close the episode with our OTP, but for a good stretch in the middle, the OTP takes a backseat, while Show goes all near-apocalypse on us.
And while I understand that it’s important that Jin Mu gets eradicated (I must say, Do Sang Woo does a good job channeling Jin Mu, so much so that I could believe that it was Jo Jae Yun on the inside, working his face and voice), I still felt the absence of our OTP quite keenly.
I mean, don’t get me wrong; I liked the scenes of the OTP at the beginning of the episode.
The scenes of them just doing couple things, were sweet and dreamy, and the wedding was also quite lovely. And, I also liked that Master Lee talks about how their names mean “light” and “shadow,” coz, Ohhhh, finally the title of this season makes sense to me.
At the same time, it felt to me, like Show was being withholding, on the OTP front, after this point.
We only find out in flashback, about Naksu / Yeong’s final moments, before her dissipation, and I didn’t like that.
I’d have wanted to know, right when it happened, not after the fact, in flashback. It kinda feels like Show went and let it happen without me, in a weird way?
And, with Show emphasizing all the other dramatic face-offs in our story, it also felt like this important OTP moment (and really, the OTP is the heart of this season, for me), got relegated to the sidelines, which I didn’t prefer.
Show does give our OTP a happy ending, but I have to confess that I kind of had to remind myself about Master Lee’s theory about Jin Seol Ran’s soul inhabiting Bu Yeon’s body, in order for it to sit better.
Because, otherwise, it just felt rather strange and overly easy, to just have Original Bu Yeon back away and give her body to Naksu / Yeong, just like that.
This might have more to do with my being slow to embrace the theory that Show introduces, than Show not doing a good job providing an explanation for Bu Yeon giving her body to Naksu / Yeong.
After this point, though, I felt, AGAIN, that Show was being withholding, on the OTP front, because, time-skip later, we visit all our characters, at length, except for our OTP.
I know that Show’s saving them for last, but still, I couldn’t shake the niggling feeling that Show was withholding their happy ending from me, and therefore denying me the gratification that I wanted. 😅
Can you tell that I was somewhat disgruntled, by this point of my watch? 😅
All that said, though, I’m glad that everyone who means anything to us, is alive and doing well.
I’m especially glad that Show didn’t kill off Park Jin and Maidservant Kim, and we even get an indication that Maidservant Kim is likely to be pregnant, which is great, because I know she’d be an awesome mom.

I’m also somewhat tickled to see that our Crown Prince is now the King, and that, even as King, he’s still got that befuddled, slightly grumpy way of talking, which has really grown on me, by now.
While I would have liked to have seen our OTP living an idyllic sort of life, after all that they’ve been through, it is fittingly badass, that beyond the casual couple bickery, they work together and combine their powers, to hunt down all the escaped relics, in order to protect the world at large.
With great power comes great responsibility, after all. 😉
And I’m glad to know that underneath that great power, is a great love, which they have chosen to give each other.



















Thank you, KFG! And everyone for watching and commenting. I enjoyed the rewatch and am in full admiration of the Hong sisters knack for telling a story that felt authentically and grippingly twisty-turny, had a well-conceived and unique world-build, lovely relationships (esp Crown Prince with just about everyone) and a good heart (most particularly So-i and Seo Yul). Both seasons deserve to be beloved and it’s been great falling for it all over again. xx
Thanks for your great comments presence throughout, Ele.
Likewise @j3ffc! On a side note, I’m still crying about the loss of Mr Giles…
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Aww I can’t believe this rewatch is over.
Thank you KFG for hosting this group watch on the blog – this is my most favorite show evah.
but this watch was made so much more special with all the discussion we had here- so many new perspectives and new names – thanks @j3ffc.
I agree with both yours and @Nathan’s assessment – I wanted more OTP time in the happily ever after zone but I also would have loved an epic battle – especially since show hyped up the powers so much it should have lasted more than that “blink and you miss the firebird” sequence.
i loved Jung So-min’s Mu-Deok but I do have a soft spot for Bu-yeon.
The way I saw the whole Jin Seol-ran arc was that in LOTR, Gandalf moves on once the big battle is done. And I believe since the ice stone was left behind for Jin Seol-ran, she really couldn’t disappear until it was destroyed and it makes sense for leaving that body to Naksu. I really don’t believe there is a “Bu Yeon soul” at all in this world. It was always Jin Seol- ran.
And the bromance was amazing in this season – definitely would love for a Crown Prince & Turtle spinoff. Or Master Lee’s Magical Tales of Daeho series
@Kumari, thanks to you as well, especially for your patient explanations of plot points that I found….opaque. I really needed them. I felt a lot like Master Lee’s little pupils at times. It was indeed a great time.
@Kumari, I think your explanation about Jin Seol-ran sounds absolutely right. Bu-yeon was never a real person, because she was actually dead already before birth. And with the ice stone safe Jin Seol-ran could leave the world.
That’s interesting re Jin Seol-ran being the actual “soul” of Bu-yeon. I like that idea as makes what happened to Bu-yeon less sad.
As we close this group watch off, I want to thank KFG for taking what was a wishful thought and deciding to run with it. I have an ongoing love affair with the show and I’m sure this will not be the last time I at least watch parts of it.
For this rewatch I made myself go through every last bit, even the parts that I was less enthusiastic about (i.e. the “dirty” water in S1) but it ended up allowing me to pick up some plot points that had eluded me previously.
Thanks also to j3ffc who has been a big driver of the commenting. I got so busy that I couldn’t sustain every week, but I loved his perspective and observations. Thanks for everyone else who also made this a very lovely experience.
In these last two episodes, there was plenty that I loved. For one, I got the closure I wanted on the OTP. I am a traditional romantic at heart and while I get the independence of many OTP couples in many modern kdramas, I will always love a “happily-ever-after” wedding. And I agree with KFG that having the show go out with them being a real team to chase and capture the relics was very satisfying.
I agree that the final episode was lacking, but almost in the opposite direction KFG went. She wanted more OTP but I wanted the final battle to be a bit more epic. I will say, though, I did like the final demise of Jin Mu (even if it was a bit vigilante in style). I liked the moral that those who think they are powerful and use it to bully others will get their comeuppance from someone who is even more powerful.
@Nathan, thank YOU for your kind words for being the instigator of this. I love group watches because, as was the case this time, I got so much out of the group’s comments for a show I wouldn’t have rewatched on my own. I truly enjoyed it this time around.
Thank you @Nathan for suggesting this group watch. It has been the most fun!
And now it’s over! To summarise the two seasons, I still like season 1 better. It’s funnier and I prefer Jang Uk as less jaded (even though he really is a master of entrances in season 2) and Mu- Deok is a more interesting character than Bu-Yeon. But it really hasn’t got anything to do with the acting, since both actors are great . This re-watch I really changed my opinion of You from “meh” to “he’s a great, upstanding guy”.
However, I think that the Crown Prince in many ways is my favourite character, apart from Jang Uk and Mu-deok. And judging from his care of the turtle he will probably be a great dad, if he just finds the right woman.
Will I rewatch this show? Yes, definitely. Every episode is worth watching and acting is overall very good. And the bromance is as good as in Good Manager.
Nice watching this with all of you!
@My, so glad you came along on the ride! Totally agree on the CP as a potentially great dad and partner. You know, I think Yun-ok might be available….
@thought about Yun-ok, but is she really nice? I think that the brothel owner would be a good fit, actually. She is much smarter than she lets on, just like the CP. Of course she is not an option, but if it was possible, I think they would have a happy marriage. The turtle could be the nanny for their children!
@My, I actually do think Yun-ok is at heart a good person, but not being used to rejection and having her heart set on a particular boy, she acted out. I would like to think she regretted it. But, just as for the brothel owner, I don’t think that it would do for the queen consort to work outside the home.
So we have two spinoffs here:
“The Bachelor: Daeho Rules”
and
“My Nanny is a Turtle!”
I will disagree with @j3ffc a smidgeon – I feel Yun-Ok had a bigger ego on her attractiveness thanks to that maid of hers *insert eye rolls galore* and not the right fit for CP. Because in S2, she just decided to act all morally upright and still goes about reading someone else’s letter. Hello! privacy?
And even prior to that she was unnecessarily rude to Bu-yeon. No one treats our Bu-yeon that way.
I don’t think they showed her remorse – just that she moved on.
This was a great rewatch! I enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. I agree that more OTP time in the final episode was needed, but still… I found I had a much greater opinion of Yul from watching this again. And the Crown Prince and Master Lee are my two favorite side characters.
Thanks for joining us, Deb! I think, in general, the rich array of supporting characters was a great asset to the show.
and it’s a wrap! honestly i say this every week but i still feel the same way- im so glad that this was our group watch because it was always on my to-watch list that i never got around to watching and what a pity that would be because i really, really loved both part 1 and 2. was it perfect – no – but the show grabbed my heart and my attention and held it for 30 episodes, no mean feat. i loved Jang Uk and Naksu/ Bu Yeon / Cho Yeon’s love story as well as Jang Uk coming into his own. and all of our supporting characters were fantastic too. shoutout for Crown Prince and his turtle love too! the main thing i disliked about the ending was the fake deaths for Park Jin, Maidservant Kim and Jin mama – but ok i’ll move past it.
i have been watching promo videos by the season 2 gang and they had so much fun together too.
ah what a wonderful ride it was – one made so much richer with this group watch. thanks everyone for being part of this with me!
E9 AND E10
I felt the show did as good a job as possible in presenting a suitably worrisome outcome that would challenge the good guys and make it seem as though everything could come crashing down. Even if it included one of my least favorite plot movements in any show: fake and or/reversible deaths. On one side, we were promised a slow, agonizing death for Jin Mu, but he ended up saving his sorry butt with the unwitting help of ss-Queenie. And on the other, the show teased the deaths the trio of Madame Jin, Park Jin, and Maidservant Kim (Maidservant Kim!). But as expected, Uk singlehandedly killed all of the bad guys (I will say that that one bearded House Manager had been asking for it from season one) and took care of the fire bird.
I liked the presentation of life after all of this. Modified in good ways that seemed to fit our beloved characters and make for a better life of the Denizen of Daeho. I particular enjoyed the emerging legend of Uk and Bu-yeon and thought that the show did a serviceable job of landing Naksu in her new guise. I am assuming that the original Bu-yeon left her immense mystical powers behind in that body and there is no danger of Naksu/B-Y running wild in the future. But if there were – Hello, Season 3!
No show of this type works without a great villain, and I thought that Jin Mu was a terrific character, creepy as all get out, evil, and with a cockroach’s talent for survival. Fantastic portrayal by Jo Jae-yun (I liked him so much that I “cast” him as a romantic lead in “New York State of Mind”). And I thought that Do Sang-woo did an incredible job in portraying the ss’ed Jin Mu in that good-for-nothing-Seo’s-uncle–I think he wins the award for most convincing soul shift in the entire soul.
OVERALL THOUGHTS ON THE SHOW: PARTS 1 and 2
The main thought is this: I enjoyed this re-watch even more than my pretty positive interaction with it when it was on live. The Hong sisters definitely came back with this one: a fantastic job of world-building, indelible characters that were easy to love or to loathe, and solid plotting that held up over 30 total episodes. It was a fun show to look at as well. There were nits to pick, and pick them I did, but overall this was a very enjoyable watch.
Big picture, I still felt this time around as I did on my first watch: I enjoyed the first part more than the second, and for more or less the same reasons. I remain a fan of Mu Deok/Naksu and Jung So Min’s performance, although this time around I had more fun with Go Joun-yung’s second-half variation (and am a budding fan of the actor altogether). But the bigger reason was that I greatly preferred Uk’s character pre-ice stone. I generically dislike characters with limitless power and, if anything, it bothered me ever more this time around. In part 2, Uk seemed to be the only one who could do anything – to the extent I was wondering why any of the other characters existed at all. Especially Bu-yeon, who was so gripping in Naksu form in part I.
However, none of this kept me from enjoying the show, even as a second watch, and I was happy for the time I spent with these characters, in this universe. I’ll miss having Alchemy on my screen.
Thanks again to KFG for hosting the group watch and to those of you who participated throughout. It was a special pleasure, as always, to hear your thoughts and to share this time.
Thank you @j3ffc , you made this rewatch so much fun. I agree the Hong sisters were stellar with the world building.
I could be wrong but I think Jung So-min wouldn’t have been the right fit for bringing out the innocence and “this is my first time doing this” kinda feel that Bu-yeon’s character needed. It would have been hard for me to shed that confident Naksu image.