Open Thread: Someday Or One Day Episodes 5 & 6

Welcome to the Open Thread, everyone! I thought this was a pretty perfect shot to headline our post today, because I love so much, this carefree moment that the three friends share. 🥰

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS, before we begin:

1. ZERO SPOILER POLICY ON THE OPEN THREAD

We will be adopting a ZERO SPOILER POLICY for this Open Thread, except for events that have happened in the show, up to this point.

The spoiler tags don’t work in email notifications, therefore, please take note that WE WILL NOT BE USING SPOILER TAGS FOR THIS OPEN THREAD. ANY AND ALL SPOILERS WILL BE REDACTED to protect first-time viewers in our midst (although, I’d appreciate it if you would save me the trouble of having to redact spoilers, heh 😅).

*This includes (but is not limited to) how characters or relationships evolve over the course of the story. Just pretend that this is Past You, on this Open Thread!*

2. SPOILER ZONE AVAILABLE

HOWEVER!! If you’d like to discuss spoilers from a rewatcher’s point of view, I’ve created a SPOILER ZONE for you, where you can discuss all the spoilers you’d like, without the need for spoiler warnings. You can find it here!

Without further ado, here are my reactions to this set of episodes; have fun in the Open Thread, everyone! ❤️

My thoughts

Episode 5

Hyperawareness, growing feelings, confusion, and general discombobulation is the name of the game this episode – at least between Ziwei and Yuxuan, and I am eating it up with a spoon.

Despite Ziwei’s best intentions of taking a step back, so that Junjie can work to win “Yunru’s” heart, he just can’t fight his own reactions to her. The way he tries to fight himself on this is endearing (for actually trying to fight it, out of loyalty to his friend), and adorkable (for how he fails so miserably, ha).

Just the way he reacts, when Yuxuan grabs him by the waist, as he tells her to hold on tight, tells us everything we need to know. He’s so thrown by the sensation of her hands on his waist, that he doesn’t even realize that he hasn’t turned the ignition on his scooter. Hee.

On Yuxuan’s side of things, she’s definitely thrown by how Ziwei reminds her of Quansheng, even though she’s cognizant that they are two separate people.

How very, very curious, though, that Ziwei and Quansheng (again!) use the same turn of phrase, to describe their love for vinegar in their food.

First, the attitude towards 3rd birthday wishes, and now this? What in the world..? Surely this can’t be coincidence? But if it isn’t just a coincidence, then what could it be? How are Quansheng and Ziwei connected, to have such similarities between them?

Show isn’t exactly specific on this, but it feels reasonably safe to assume that Yuxuan basically lies, in order to get Junjie out of trouble with the police, right?

I mean, she doesn’t actually remember what happened that night, and it’s not clear that the hearing aid was actually in her (or Yunru’s) possession, when the attack happened. Which means that she made up an excuse, to get Junjie off the hook, yes?

After all, Junjie himself looks confused, and appears to just be playing along as well. The detective lady doesn’t exactly look super convinced either, even though there’s nothing she can do or say, since this is Yunru’s testimony as the victim.

I really do wonder how Junjie’s hearing aid came to be at the crime scene. Most curiously, why doesn’t Junjie himself seem to know how it got there..?

I kinda love how Uncle decides to play along with “Yunru’s” story, that she’s actually from 2019, and uses this premise to get Yuxuan to apply herself at school. Ha. Sneaky. I mean, from Yuxuan’s point of view, I’m sure she wouldn’t appreciate him pretending to play along like this, but otherwise, that’s a pretty Cool Uncle sort of way to handle the situation, isn’t it?

He gets “Yunru” to open up about what she’s thinking, stops her from feeling like no one understands her, and gets her to at least try to maintain Yunru’s grades, all in one fell swoop. I’m quite amused at how neatly his strategy works, honestly.

The other thing that I love, is how Show makes it a point to show us that Yuxuan has no idea how to do all of the schoolwork that’s before her.

HAHA. I identify with this, so much. I’m absolutely certain that if you were to put a math problem in front of me now – whether the topic was even something I actually studied in school is irrelevant at this point – I wouldn’t have a clue in terms of how to solve it.

Therefore, I had to giggle at how Yuxuan skips over every question on that mock exam, and ends up just guessing at every single answer. That’s.. probably what I would’ve done too, in her shoes. 😅

How fun, that Yuxuan excels at basketball, and that causes her to become popular with the other kids, all of a sudden. I don’t know what this is doing to mess with Yunru’s life (like Uncle was saying), but I can’t help getting a thrill at the very idea that the wallflower is no long a wallflower, and that people are starting to notice “Yunru’s” charm and pretty looks.

I can’t even blame Ziwei for (clearly) falling for her even more, because there really is something very attractive about the way she throws herself into the game and is so willing to put herself out there.

On that note, I have to confess that I am loving Greg Hsu’s smitten looks, and that smitten look, even as Ziwei cheers “Yunru” on, is pretty great. 🤩

It’s too bad that this has also gotten the attention of the girl who was trying to confess her feelings for Ziwei. She does not look like a happy camper, with all the attention that “Yunru” is getting from Ziwei, and I worry that she’s going to do something to make life miserable for “Yunru.”

Meanwhile, Class Monitor is definitely giving me creepy vibes. Why does he have what looks like a stalker photo of Yunru, and why is he gloating over it with that ominous look of anticipation in his eyes..? 👀

AND, what is that scene that we see from his perspective?? Is that some sort of flashback? Or some kind of fever dream? And, if it was a flashback, why would Yunru say such a thing to him?? 😳

Given what Yuxuan remembers of the attack, where Yunru’s attacker was a guy wearing their school uniform, this surely puts Class Monitor at the top of my Suspicious List!

Episode 6

Oh, Mo Junjie. Even as I can’t help myself from spazzing over Ziwei’s growing feelings for Yuxuan, I can’t help but feel for Junjie, as he gets slowly overwhelmed by such a complicated web of emotion.

First of all, Junjie had noticed Yunru first, and he’d liked her first, and so, as the hyperawareness begins to grow on Ziwei’s part, it feels like a betrayal of sorts. After all, Ziwei himself has said before, that he would never like a girl that his friend likes. It’s like a brotherhood code of honor, and now, that seems to be breaking, slowly but surely.

Secondly, Yunru herself feels like such a different person, that it must be hugely confusing for Junjie. I’m sure that he’s wondering if she’s still the same person he’d liked in the first place. The Yunru whom he’d felt a connection with, had felt out of place in the world, and had hated being in the world. Like her, he tends to feel different from the rest of the world as well.

But now, Yunru is nothing like that; she’s grown popular, and is no longer an outcast.

I’m guessing that Junjie must be uncertain of what to do, in the face of that. Should he keep on liking her, because love shouldn’t change, and it’s not Yunru’s fault that she hurt her head and underwent a personality change, or should he re-evaluate his feelings, because she’s so different compared to the person whom he fell for, in the first place?

It’s all very confusing, for sure. And, it’s exacerbated by the fact that the three of them are supposed to be friends. How should Junjie navigate this, such that he won’t hurt his friends, and yet stay true to himself? Such deep, complicated questions feel so burdensome, for someone so young, right?

One of my personal highlights, this episode, is seeing “Yunru’s” family relationships mend and improve, thanks to Yuxuan.

I never thought I’d say this, but her relationship with Siyuan is turning out to be pretty cute and endearing. The way she ropes in Ziwei and Junjie to save Siyuan from his bullies is pretty epic, and the 3 of them really do make an awesome little gang. 🤩😂

I love that thereafter, Yuxuan manages to get Siyuan to open up about why his classmates bully him, and that that leads to some important conversations about how they feel about Mom’s job.

Although we hear from Siyuan that Yunru had felt ashamed of Mom’s job, I do love how Yuxuan smooths it over and emphasizes the more important conclusion, which is that Mom put aside her pride, in order to protect her children. What a difference a change in perspective can make, right? (This is why I always advocate checking our viewing lens, heh!)

I love that this has the ripple effect of Siyuan and “Yunru” bonding as siblings, and that eventually strengthening the family relationships overall, with Mom.

The sight of Mom tearing up, at her two children actually getting along and eating breakfast together, really touched me. It must have hurt her so much, for so long, that her children didn’t get along.

What a wonderful gift it must be for her, to finally be able to have a cozy, cheerful meal with her kids, where everyone gets along with everyone. ❤️

On another note, we get TWO MORE instances, where Ziwei is, again, just like Quansheng; this time, in his taste in desserts, and then later, in his preferred method of turning down love confessions.

This is getting pretty freaky, isn’t it? I mean, this is the third and fourth times, that he’s said something uncannily similar to Quansheng.

How is this at all possible, if they are two distinct people? Could Ziwei and Quansheng have known each other, and that’s why Quansheng picked up all these quirks from Ziwei? After all, we have Ziwei meeting young Yuxuan, when he goes off on his own, this episode.

On that note, I wanted to say, the concept is tropey (like, I could guess this, right away, no lie), and the execution is really quite cheesy (and stilted, oh boy, little girl is cute, but is she stilted!), but the idea’s a nice one.

It’s an interesting thing to think about, that Yuxuan had met Ziwei, when she’d been a little girl, and he’d been the kind Big Brother who’d come to her rescue. It makes me wonder if Yuxuan actually has memories of this – or if this is a new thing that’s happened, and will therefore be added belatedly, to her memories..?

Would this encounter with Ziwei have shaped Yuxuan’s taste in boyfriends? Like, did she like Quansheng because, subconsciously, he’d reminded her of the very nice Big Brother who’d once rescued her and brought her home?

From Ziwei’s answer to Little Yuxuan’s question about the kind of girl he likes, it’s clear that whether he’s cognizant of it or not, his description of his ideal girl is literally a description of Yuxuan herself. I think it’s safe to say that he definitely, definitely likes her.

In other news, what is UP with Class Monitor?? Gah. The way he has an actual hallucination while trailing “Yunru” is extremely disturbing. It’s clear that this guy has psychological problems.

How worrying, that he seems to be fixated with “Yunru,” and is likely the person who’s taking stalker photos of her. I’d be worried for Yuxuan (or Yunru, for that matter) to walk around alone, if this psychologically unstable guy is obsessed with her. 😬

I’m glad that she’s got Ziwei and Junjie looking out for her.

At the same time, though, man, oh man, are the feelings getting complicated, between the two boys.

As conflicted as Junjie feels, about Yunru being different, and about Ziwei developing feelings for her, Ziwei is conflicted too, because he doesn’t want to be disloyal friend.

The little snippets that we get, say it all: Junjie noticing from afar, Ziwei and “Yunru” clearly sharing A Moment, at the piano; Ziwei trying to give Junjie the opportunity to be alone with “Yunru,” by saying that he’ll stay at the pavilion to wait out the rain; Junjie, thinking back to Ziwei’s Moment with “Yunru,” and saying the exact same thing.

Augh. It’s so bittersweet, seeing these two besties trying to do right by each other, while struggling with their own hearts.

That moment in the rain, though, when Yuxuan’s umbrella gets blown away, is exactly the moment we know that Ziwei’s a goner.

That entranced look in his eyes says it all; he’s completely and utterly in love with “Yunru,” and he can’t help himself, even if she’s the girl that Junjie likes.

It’s such a liberating, heartwarming moment, with all three of them running together in the rain like that.

..And then it feels like such a sobering moment, when Ziwei takes his first moment alone with Junjie, to tell Junjie that he’s pretty sure that he likes “Yunru.”

On my first watch, this had felt a little rash, in the sense that I hadn’t wanted anything to break the magic of the moment. But now, on my second watch, I appreciate that Ziwei had wanted to be honest with Junjie, from the very moment that he became cognizant of the fact that he likes “Yunru.”

Even if it feels like an inconvenient moment, he doesn’t want anything to stand in the way of him being honest with his best friend, and even though this is very likely going to make things really awkward between them, I can’t help but appreciate that desire to be real with Junjie, because Junjie deserves that much.

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Elaine Phua
Elaine Phua
8 months ago

This rewatch helps me realise another function of the comedy-skit like 2019 Office scenes in the first few episodes – to demonstrate Yuxuan’s personality traits. Even though she spent a lot of the first few episodes in a depressed, morose state, certain situations did show her more assertive, confrontational side. Like when she showed her fist to silly male colleague, or when she engaged the “pet finder/fortune teller” with a made-up story in order to show that she was a fraud. Whereas Yunru is much more submissive, passive, victim-like. Hence Yuxuan in Yunru’s body has a much different approach to the relationship with younger brother Siyuan, and with her classmates. Cos she doesn’t have the same baggage and insecurities that Yunru does, and she’s also more confident and willing to confront others or call it like it is.

Gloglo
Gloglo
8 months ago

In the end I binged the whole of Some Day or One Day during the holidays… and unfortunately I only wrote my reaction to episode 5 as I binged the whole series so fast that I did not give myself time to stop and reflect on each episode… Far too impatient! I however wrote a reaction to episode 5, which is interesting because it was then when I realised the show was going in a direction I found heartwarming and satisfying 😊. This us what I wrote:

”I love the humour in this show like when the uncle listens to YX confess she’s not YR and he goes along with it and convinces her that she needs to to school and study so that she isn’t discovered 😂 So fun. The actors have very good comic timing.

And of course, YX is realising that there is a connection between ZL and QC… I knew it! ZL is just too cute not to get the girl… 😊Also JJ is not really the guy for YX and YX is not the girl that JJ loves, so this makes perfect sense.

So ZL met 5/7 year old YX… I imagine this will be connected in some way with the story but I just can’t think how…

So many swoony moments too 😍. I don’t think I’ll be able to resist the urge to binge the rest of the series…”

CarpControl
CarpControl
8 months ago

A happy 2022 to KFG and to your family, both online and the real ones! 💕

I’m one of those folks in the minority, who despite finding the whole ‘kid & big-brother’ meet-cute agonizingly & un-realistically long on her first watch, finds it oddly humorous & heart-warming this time round! 😊

The past-me still saw the irony/ humor in the situation though; here’s Yu Xuan from 2019, stuck in 1998, ignoring ZiWei & his burgeoning feelings because ‘he’s just a kid‘. Yet the kid-version of her grew up to date Wang Quan Sheng, who resembled Big Brother (visually) so much; only to time-travel into the past, and ignore him completely, because now she’s the Jie-Jie. I cannot.🤣

There is also a larger ‘foot-in-the-mouth‘ aspect of my earlier chain of thoughts, as has been true since ep.1.🤯 However, the irony & the humor part of it still is very valid😜Gosh, I feel like I’m speaking in code-language now! Only people who’ve watched earlier would recognize the folly!! 😊

Last edited 8 months ago by CarpControl
Ele Nash
8 months ago

Well, Class Monitor is in a scary psychosis, isn’t he? Or is Yunru’s, um, soul(?), real self(?) in that tent thing inside his head 🤯 You see, she kind of freaks me out too, repeating everything Yuxuan says or thinks, watching ZiWei on the screen with a kind of hunger. What if Yunru is in the tent thing repeating stuff Yuxuan is saying and because she’s somehow camping in Class Monitor’s head, he’s thinking she’s speaking to him. No? Am I as mad as Class Monitor?! I also keep worrying about that doctor guy Yuxuan was seeing in the present day. He wasn’t Class Monitor all grown up, was he?

I’m glad brother seems to be alright after a very ropey beginning. And relieved Junjie is off the hook with the cops 😅 I’m also really pleased he’s noticed his Yunru and the “Yunru” standing before him are entirely different to each other. That’s nice because it shows how much he really had noticed Yunru. He is my favourite 😍 The world is indeed too noisy.

As for the “is ZiWei actually the same as Quansheng” question, I’m still with the yes on that. THEY ARE THE SAME! I will be very interested to find out how they’re not, if they’re in fact not… The little Yuxuan was super cute but that scene went on far too long and I kept worrying how ZiWei was going to explain riding around town with a five-year-old… Kdramas are obsessed with everyone having known each other when children, aren’t they?!

Anyway, meet you at the Milky Way 🎵

CarpControl
CarpControl
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

I have beckoned my ‘past-me’ to talk to you! 😛
Okay, you believe Zi-Wei and Quan-Sheng are the same guy. I take it as a majorrr red-herring from the writers just to throw us off, though they are sprinkling hints every where; no matter how WILD the idea sounds, that indeed that line in the diary is likely true! 🤯
At this point, I would like to ask you, how do you think this ‘time-travel’ thing is working… and also, how could Zi-Wei & Quang-Sheng be the same, given the fact that we know & have seen Yu-Xuan as a 5 year old in 1998. And Quan-Sheng is also a similarly-aged toddler at that point of time! :’) How do you think it’s possible. Really curious to know your theories, although ONLY if you have zero exposure to spoilers! 💕

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  CarpControl

I haven’t seen beyond these episodes so I guess all you rewatchers are sniggering at my wild imaginings 😳 I did post my “theories” on the blog last episode watch. Suffice to say…

When Yunru is murdered, Yuxuan hops back to her modern day and ZiWei (I don’t know how) but heartbroken he like zips forward in time too (to circa 2012, just before he meets Yuxuan at uni). He has enough time to prepare his identity as Quansheng because he’s, like, adopted by some guys (I don’t know who!) and they hide the fact he hadn’t grown up with them (the mum at the funeral said no photos of him as a child as he didn’t smile. More like, because he existed as a child in the 1980s!).

So… although Yunru and Yuxuan are doppelgangers, ZiWei IS Quansheng, waiting to meet the girl who had popped into Yunru’s body from the future. Yah, makes total sense right? 😆

Also, my theory included the idea that when the plane crashed, ZiWei-Quansheng hopped into the future (again, I don’t know how) and then has come back all battered and looking a bit old and knackered and is waiting for Yuxuan to finish being Yunru so he can go, ta-dah, I’m Quansheng AKA ZiWei!

Hooray! Feel free to snigger or scratch your head. I’ve literally just finished editing a story about time travel so my head is full of nonsense 🙂

Snow Flower
Snow Flower
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

@Ele, this is my second watch and I still have not figured some of the details out. The show does have its own logic and it follows it consistently. Enjoy the reveals!

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  Snow Flower

I am very curious! Enjoying taking my time watching, though, and sticking to the weekly group watch of two episodes.

J3ffc
J3ffc
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

Trust us, Ele, there will be no sniggering. This show is, if nothing else, a proper mind bend. Part of its charm! I personally love that fact that two people can watch the same material and come up with diametrically opposed interpretations.

I think we do agree on Class Monitor and that that tent house is one freaky joint.

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  J3ffc

😆 I don’t mind if you are sniggering. When we did the group watch of Money Flower (which I’d seen before) I did enjoy how varied everyone’s reactions and thoughts were, especially the newbies. This show is so intriguing – and I’m glad it’s not just me who finds the whole tent thing on the sinister side…

Leslie
Leslie
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

@Ele – You always have the most active imagination. I’m like, well, I don’t know if or how ZiWei and Quangsheng are the same person, but the show will tell me… dum-dee-dum-dee-dum.😆

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  Leslie

Ha, Leslie! There are no bounds to where I think a show might be going – even gritty real life might suddenly invoke a ghost or freaky parallel universe 😅 I am so looking forward to the reveals!

CarpControl
CarpControl
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

Aww, Ele, we aren’t sniggering, trust us!! I am the biggest clown as the proponent of the wormhole/ space-time portal/ parallel universes theory. And I was SO sure of myself, I had trouble giving it up, even on the re-watch, lmao! xD

The reason why I ask is personal. I saw a LOT of folks online who had NO trouble figuring out the clues to what was happening, and were like: ‘aha, I expected this‘. On the other hand, I felt so AWED at the reveal. I kept wondering… ‘did I miss out on some clues which the others noticed?‘ And as a first-time viewer, you, Ele, have the most un-tainted background to answer that question! ^^

I will refrain from commenting much on your theory for fear of spoiling. However, as non-sense as it may seem to you, I can surely say up to ep 6, whatever has been shown/ told to us, fits right in with what you’re proposing, and I see no logic-lapse.😊 I mean, even Interstellar did the whole meta-physical ‘love can transcend boundaries‘ thing, once they could no longer justify the logic with science & physics! 😎

Cheers, El! Hope you continue to be as enthralled and mind-blown as the rest of us! ^^ Ps. I think I chuckled a little! 😜

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  CarpControl

Oh, I hate (read: am jealous) when people guess a convoluted plot straight away! Sometimes (read: rarely) I do that but I’m pretty trusting (read: gullible) so I tend to lap up what’s being told to me and then 🤯 my head gets blown off by the reveals 😆 I’m enjoying trying to work it out. I just can’t believe ZiWei isn’t Quansheng, not until they shows me Quansheng as a cute five year old in 1998 too. Although… I suppose ZiWei could do a Yuxuan and mind hop into Quansheng’s brain in the future and then actually when they’re dating it is ZiWei but in Quansheng’s doppelganger body! Yes, feel free to chuckle. But it sounds plausible to me 🙂

Snow Flower
Snow Flower
8 months ago
Reply to  Ele Nash

@Ele Nash, Junkie is my favorite too.

Snow Flower
Snow Flower
8 months ago
Reply to  Snow Flower

Junjie, not Junkie!

Ele Nash
8 months ago
Reply to  Snow Flower

😆

Snow Flower
Snow Flower
8 months ago

Happy New Year! Rewatched Episodes 5 and 6 today. I agree with that everything is so well thought of. I chuckled at the exam scene.😀

j3ffc
j3ffc
8 months ago

On my first re-watch of this, I’m consistently surprised with how explicit the show actually is about what’s going on. While I was just confused the first time around, seeing it again makes me realize that I was just creating confusion out of nowhere. I mean, show makes explicitly clear that Ziwei/Quansheng and Yunru/Yuxuan are different people (although somehow related), that that little girl is exactly who we thought she was, and that Hall Monitor is one sick puppy. Even knowing where we are going, I find myself pulled along and engaged by the narrative…a sure sign of Good Writing.

Thanks to KFG for hosting this party, and a happy new year indeed.

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