Welcome to the Open Thread, everyone! This is the final one! Thanks for watching this one with me, you guys. ❤️
And, I picked this screenshot to headline our post, because it’s one of Show’s iconic moments, brought full circle, now that we’ve gotten to the end. I thought that was a nice touch. 😃
SOME IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS, before we begin:
1. There will be NO SPOILER ZONE this week, because this is the final Open Thread for this show.
2. I will be putting up a brainstorming post next Saturday, 10 September, where we can discuss what show we’d like to watch together next.
Without further ado, here are my reactions to this set of episodes; have fun in the Open Thread, everyone! ❤️
Welp. It looks like we’re in the Very Angsty penultimate stretch, and I gotta say, I’m starting to feel rather antsy.
I’m still feeling reasonably engaged, sure, but I am definitely feeling impatient to get to the happy ending that Show’s been promising me all along, from its title (lit. “next stop, happiness”) to its closing credits.
I have to keep reminding myself that this is a retro drama, and that’s why everything’s extra melodramatic, and why people aren’t communicating better, and why everything’s being milked to its last breath, for the Drama of it all.
It does make the conversations (more like outbursts) between Guang Xi and Mu Cheng feel that much harder to watch, because if he would just stop cutting her off, or if she would just keep talking instead of allowing herself to be cut off, they could avoid a lot of misunderstanding.
But of course, Show won’t let them do that, right, since we still have a few more episodes of screen time to fill, before we’re allowed that happy ending.
I’m extremely surprised that it turns out the Mu Cheng did pawn the wedding ring after all, because, exactly how did she get a good enough dupe on such short notice, that she’d be able to convince Guang Xi that that was her real wedding ring?
And also, it’s really frustrating that Mu Cheng sticks to her lie, even when it’s clear that Guang Xi’s asking specifically about the ring.
Like you guys have been saying, Mu Cheng isn’t very smart sometimes. 😅
The whole thing between Tuo Ye and Chi Xin is also way more melodramatic than I think it needs to be, in that it feels like they’ve both been directed to deliver the scenes with a marked theatrical flair.
It’s kinda awkward to watch, to be honest, and I actually felt quite relieved when our focus shifted away from their conundrum, and back to Guang Xi and Mu Cheng.
It’s just like Chi Xin to offer to take the blame for Tuo Ye, and it’s also just like Tuo Ye, to insist on taking the blame himself, because he’s the one who’d stabbed Brother Fung.
From the way the police officer says that he’s being charged for attempted murder, I’m inferring that Brother Fung didn’t actually die, which is a good thing, since that means that Tuo Ye needs to deal with comparatively less trouble.
It’s bizarre how nobody’s talked so far about how Tuo Ye did it in self defense, but I suppose that’s what Guang Xi’s there for – exactly as Ele had predicted (Go, Ele!)
It actually hits rather hard, when Guang Xi says that he will take steps to end the marriage, once he’s done with Tuo Ye’s case, because this state of affairs is all due to a gigantic bundle of tangled miscommunication, assumption and presumption.
While all this is going on, my head is protesting, “But it doesn’t need to beeee this wayyy!” 😞
That scene at the end, when President Mom talks to Guang Xi about his relationship with Mu Cheng, doesn’t really ring true for me, because President Mom’s never struck me as being someone with sufficient EQ to even attempt such a conversation.
I rationalize that President Mom is probably much more open to the relationship, now that she’s grown attached to Xiao Le, but that still doesn’t explain her newly acquired touchy-feely talking capabilities.
Also, it’s just quite dissonant to hear her talking about Mu Cheng, and saying that perhaps Mu Cheng lied to him because she loves him too much, and that there must be a reason that he and Mu Cheng met again.
It’s.. extremely weird, coming from President Mom. 😅
But y’know what, fine, I’ll take it, if it means that this nudges us closer to our happy ending.
Y’know what, it occurs to me that because it’s so out of character for President Mom to talk like this, that’s why it makes Guang Xi pause for thought as much as he does.
Nothing like someone acting against type, to get your attention, perhaps?
This episode, I feel like we’re just treading water until Stuff gets moving again, because it honestly feels like not a lot happens.
The more I see Tuo Ye being stubborn about admitting to attempted murder, the more I think that perhaps he’s not the one who stabbed Brother Fung.
And, you guys did say as well, that the way the scene was filmed was weird. Perhaps it was weird on purpose, so that we couldn’t say one way or the other, whether Tuo Ye had been the one to stick that thing into Brother Fung’s neck?
I would believe that Tuo Ye would choose to shoulder the blame, in order to protect Chi Xin..
And, if this is true, that it’s incredibly ironic, that Chi Xin had offered to do just that for him, believing him to be the one who’d stabbed Brother Fung.
This is the only explanation that would help make Tuo Ye’s current pigheaded attitude easier to swallow, honestly, because his blind insistence that he did it, nothing else to talk about, really gets exhausting after a while.
Credit to Guang Xi for having more patience than I’d given him credit for, in working to talk Tuo Ye around, so that Tuo Ye agrees to let Guang Xi represent him.
Again, President Mom going to Hua Village to drop off the photos and sugarless milk cookies for Xiao Le is a bit of a stretch, but if I keep telling myself what she keeps telling other people – that she’s mellowed with age, and Xiao Le’s caused her to see things differently – it lands a bit better.
I suppose we do need things to start turning around, if we’re going to have a happy ending on schedule.
As out of character as it might seem for President Mom, I do appreciate that she apologizes to Mu Cheng, and takes back what she’d said before, about Mu Cheng not being well brought up by her parents.
And, it’s just like Mu Cheng not to hold it against President Mom, but respond with kindness and grace, saying that they both love their children, and just have different approaches to things, is all.
As Tuo Ye’s trial begins, I find myself feeling rather impatient for this to be wrapped up, because time’s a-ticking, and we only have a limited amount of screen time left. 😅
I sure hope Chi Xin’s memory comes back soon, even though it’s highly unrealistic that it would actually happen in time for the trial.
But maybe Guang Xi’s got some tricks up his sleeve that I don’t know about yet?
Show really is stringing out the angst, and keeping the happy ending for the very end, isn’t it??
This episode, we don’t even get a hint of that happy ending, and if it weren’t already promised to us in the end credits, I’d be losing hope by now. 😅
Like I’d suspected, it turns out that Chi Xin had been the one to stab Brother Fung after all. So it’s good that that comes to light.
HOWEVER. My goodness, the manner in which the psychiatrist basically tricks and baits her into triggering those memories seems extremely unprofessional? 😳
I mean, it’s all for the melodrama, sure, but it does niggle at me, that this kind of (mis)treatment is effectively being lauded, because Chi Xin recovering her memories ends up saving the day.
Plus, the doc mentions in her introduction, that she’s finished treating Chi Xin, and.. surely Chi Xin’s still suffering from PTSD..?
And of course, to go along with that, the court proceedings are just as melodramatic, with Tuo Ye even telling the judge not to listen to Guang Xi. Essentially, things that would never go down in a real court of law, heh.
In the end, all’s well that ends.. as well as possible, given that Chi Xin is now taken into custody, just as Tuo Ye’s released.
But, at least we are given the assurance that her sentence will be mitigated by her circumstances as well as her mental state.
ALSO. I was SO GLAD that finally – FINALLY!! – SOMEBODY tells Guang Xi that the reason Mu Cheng had left him six years ago, was because President Mom had insisted on it, so that Guang Xi could receive the treatment that Director He’s company could provide.
Gah. It just feels like that’s been waiting to come into the open since forever, and in that moment that Tuo Ye finally tells Guang Xi the truth, it felt like a true moment of hope.
..That is, until Guang Xi brings everything to a grinding halt, saying that Mu Cheng’s accepted his decision to end the marriage.
Graarrgh. Seriously?? I was NOT expecting that to be Guang Xi’s response, for sure.
I was also not expecting Guang Xi to tell Gary to get him a one-way ticket to the US, either. Just, how is that supposed to help, Guang Xi?!??
Even if you divorce Mu Cheng, there’s still Xiao Le to think about, no?? 🤦🏻♀️
ANYWAY. It turns out that Guang Xi’s dad had been the one to wreck the marriage with President Mom, and not the other way around like Guang Xi had always thought.
Ooh. So I guess President Mom’s been upholding that misconception all these years, in order to protect Guang Xi’s memory of his father?
That’s.. not what I’d expected. Maybe President Mom’s softer on the inside than I’ve been giving her credit for, all this time?
YAS. We finally get that happy ending that Show’s been teasing us with from the beginning, and even though some of it is eyerollingly ridiculous and quite silly, I’m not mad about it, because at least Show keeps its promise of ending on a happy, feel-good note.
I remember that many melodramas from this era were more than likely to just kill off all their lead characters, rather than given them happy endings, so, given Show’s vintage, this really is way more Happy than most of its peers would be willing to serve up.
Keeping that in mind is really helpful, because there’s lots of stuff to wade through, even in this last episode, in order for us to get to the happy ending.
Like the reconciliation between President Mom and Guang Xi, where they finally talk honestly about what had really happened between her and Dad, back in the day, and why she’d never told Guang Xi the truth, all these years.
It’s noble idiocy of the highest order, to allow yourself to be vilified, so that the person who’d betrayed you, would remain a saint in his child’s eyes, but this is retro melo we’re talking about, so I suppose it’s par for the course?
I’m glad that Guang Xi apologizes to Lawyer Lin too, coz I do think that Lawyer Lin’s put up with a great deal, from Guang Xi, over the years. He really is one of our most long-suffering characters, isn’t he?
I thought it was a bit much for Tuo Ye to have to talk Mu Cheng through why it’s important for her to tell Guang Xi how she feels about him, because it kinda feels like rubbing salt into the wound?
Not only has Tuo Ye loved Mu Cheng in vain for years, now he has to be the one to convince her that she needs to tell Guang Xi that she loves him? Gosh, talk about a raw deal. 😅
The whole thing with Gary serving Mu Cheng divorce papers on Guang Xi’s behalf, followed by the whole fake kidnapping thing, was just really out there, but.. fine, as long as it gets Mu Cheng and Guang Xi to have some honest conversation, I’ll roll with it.
The whole divorce papers thing turning out to be an elaborate trick by Guang Xi, is definitely a stretch, and if I were in Mu Cheng’s shoes, I’d definitely feel upset, because that’s a good amount of stress that she goes through, because of said trick.
As long as we get our happy ending, right? And that, we do.
I’m glad to see Guang Xi and Mu Cheng finally getting along and being lovey-dovey, the way they’ve basically always wanted to be.
And, it’s icing on the cake, that they now have a little Cupid by their sides, coz Xiao Le’s always at the ready to get them to be even more lovey-dovey, using his little jokes and tricks. He’s such a cute, cheeky lil thang, isn’t he? 😍
And, it’s nice to see that things are warming up between Tuo Ye and Chi Xin.
I love his gift of a lotus to her, because of what it symbolizes: remaining clean even after touching mud.
That’s absolutely the kind of thing that I think Chi Xin needs to hear.
And, Tuo Ye’s bashful-pleased expression, when Chi Xin asks him to give her roses next time, tells me that there’s a happy ending coming at these two as well, which is a thought I really do like.
In the end, it’s also really nice to see that Lawyer Lin and President Mom do develop a romantic relationship, and the vibe I get from them is a wholesome, steady, sweet one, which I gladly approve.
All in all, this was quite the journey, and I have to admit that the road to happiness was a lot longer and bumpier than I’d first anticipated.
But, seeing the happy times that our characters have finally arrived at, sweetens the rough spots in my mind, and I’m actually pretty satisfied, that I took this journey and got to know these characters, who are beloved by so many drama fans.
THE FINAL VERDICT:
Strongly tropey and melodramatic, in keeping with its vintage; manages to be rather moreish, in spite of it all.
Hey everyone! I have not been watching along, however I have been (silently) reading along & creeping the comments (to be fair I have literally watched this drama 5+ times, so I really didn’t need to rewatch it to know every scene that anyone was talking about). I’ll say upfront that I consider Autumn’s Concerto to be one of my all-time favourite, iconic dramas, but the premise is that I watched it close to when it aired at the height of the Taiwanese idol drama era, and at 15 years old I was definitely the target demographic for these idol dramas. It was very interesting to read Kfangurl’s first impression & everyone’s comments on this drama, as they judge this classic, including its storytelling and characters from a rather modern drama watcher’s lens. While my current love for this drama is definitely primarily driven by nostalgia, it was a legitimately popular drama back when it aired, which goes to show that back then this type of melodrama was still fresh and enjoyable, rather than cliched. I think it definitely shows how much times have changed – not only the types of stories/characters, but also how people understand the world (for ex., when Guangxi kind of forces himself on Mucheng after they first get “married” – this scene is disturbing now, but in 2009 no one would have thought twice about how problematic this really is).
While I’m kind of sad that new watchers now may never be able to experience the same love that I have for this drama, I’m thankful to Kfangurl for choosing this for the group watch & for everyone sticking through it nonetheless. I’m glad everyone was able to meet these (often frustrating but sometimes quite lovely) characters and I hope you all had fun!
This is my second watch (more of a casual watch, with plenty of fast forwarding) so I am very familiar with all its eyeroll-inducing twists and turns. I am surprised and happy that @kfangurl made it to the very end. I am surprised too to find that I agree with the B grade. There must really be something to it that makes us think of it with certain fondness considering…
(1) THE WRITING – the main characters tend to make frustrating, scratch-my-head decisions; the secondary characters have sudden change of hearts that feel abrupt/should have been gradually introduced
(2) THE DIRECTING – there is a tendency for some characters to overact, and some to underact (Mu Cheng!); there were some scenes that felt abruptly transitioned; and there were overly drawn-out scenes that could have been more bearable with snappier directing/editing
So what gives, why is it beloved by many? I believe…
(1) It’s the NOSTALGIA for those who watched it when it originally aired, and also for those who wanted to revisit the feelings that show manages to induce everytime.
(2) VANNESS WU must be a huge factor. You cannot watch it if you’re not remotely charmed by the guy. Here, he’s at the peak of youth too. I’ve heard about his fantastic acting in Princess Weiyoung but in Autumn’s Concerto, he’s a good guy and the main lead.
(3 & 4) GOOD CHARACTERS that are easy to recognize in FAMILIAR SITUATIONS that we have seen in real life (and dramaland). It’s this simplicity that is absent in the current drama landscape. Characters are written more ambiguously now (bad guys that we can sympathize with; lead guys that are morally grey) and the situations are more bombastic (lots of twists and turns with heavy use of CGI). While this makes for
interesting viewing, sometimes viewers just want it raw and simple.
(5) THE OST, particularly the piano pieces, lend the scenes that timeless quality. I didn’t notice it until my second watch, how hauntingly beautiful some of the pieces were. It elevates each scene and made the drama into a cohesive whole.
It’s this simplicity that is absent in the current drama landscape.
i never thought of it quite like this, but after going back to the drama again (i have seen it twice, so it was not difficult) a quick mental evaluation of your idea of simplicity here – i feel you are totally right. watching something without a brain “overdraft” can be a whift of fresh air, but only for a very limited time (at least for me). like i am watching right now money flower for the first time, and of course i am tripping on jang hyuk gracing the screen in front of my eyes, mesmerized by his EYES, omg, THOSE EYES!!!!, but precisely the non-simplicity of this drama – completely hijacked my mind and emotions and god knows what else… no question, i would rather have this, although dramas like this and acting like this is difficult to find again.
SQUEEEEEEEEEE, Eda, I LOVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEE Money Flower 😍😍😍 I’ve watched it four times and just you mentioning it makes me want to watch it all over again 😊 Jang Hyuk is indeed utterly bewitching in it. Masterful. All the subtle shifts in expression, the unpredictability of plot. Yes, such melodrama but, ahhh, somehow believable even so. Gripping. And did I say how crazy good Jang Hyuk is?! I love him!!!!!!!
ele, yes to ALL you said.
the drama itself if breathtakingly brilliant, up there with my favorite korean dramas, like my mister, hiller, secret love affair, our blues, misaeng…
to watch jang hyuk in this drama is utterly enchanting and at the same time infinitely intoxicating. i have seen him and loved him in other dramas, but the acting in this one is a phenomena by itself. i used to think that chuno is his top and the best, never to be repeated… little did i know, until i encountered him in money flower – this one is by far his most spectacular. with this one i am putting him on the very top, next to YAI.
and apart from the drama itself and his acting (i truly can’t get over it), this is one gorgeous, glorious specimen of a man, i can’t peel off my eyes of him.
Yes, Eda! He is a glorious specimen of a man and such a convincing, heartfelt actor!!! I think I prefer his character in Chuno – Daegil is just so well-conceived, and Jang Hyuk plays him with such conviction, so much so he is Lee Daegil 😍 But there’s something a bit giddying about Kang Pilju and as a drama overall, I like Money Flower better, I think. Ah, if you are smitten, do watch him as Bangwon in My Country: New Age. He is brilliant in it. I’d place that character third in my top three Jang Hyuk characters. Ooh, maybe I literally should make a list 😄
ele, i am afraid we can go on forever on jang hyuk.
but i would love to see that list, if you can master the time and effort, please, i’ll be waiting.
i am only a bit hesitant as i am afraid that anything else except pil joo might end up a disappointment. not jang hyuk, but a drama itself or a character that will have to compete with the most perfect accomplished, clever, masterly character of pil joo.
i am looking at the younger generation of korean actors, some of them quite talented, some of them not so much and some just slide on their good looks and frankly are quite pathetic. all of them, or the majority are very handsome, but kind of polished appearances so that i many times find it difficult to differentiate, who’s who. they have very similar haircuts, go through the same kind of plastic surgery that makes them look like they are “factory mass produced”, all facial features. and here we have an older actor, who looks like nobody else, and he tops them all in looks and acting. he’s definitely the sexiest of all of them.
i am adding bangwon to my never ending list, it’s just that it will have to wait, as my drama plate right now is full (overflowing). i really outdid myself, watching right now love like the galaxy (my heart would not allow me to miss leo wu, although seeing him all grown up, tall and o so manly makes me miss my little adorable fei liu who charmed my heart then), another lengthy chinese drama lost love in times (this one i had to watch as i recently finished word of honor (quite a worthy drama) and discovered gong jun, who is so charming, real and simply makes you fall in love with his character and him – so i chased after him in lost love, but he in it and the drama itself is nothing to write home about), rewatching untamed (this one is a MUST) and simultaneously reading the book that this drama was based on – this is a new experience for me, but i enjoy it quite a bit. but… money flowers pushed it all aside and i find it difficult to leave it and go to any other drama. so that’s my situation for now.
No one comes close to his loveliness for me either, Eda. Sigh. Ah, but our General Ling is very, very attention-grabbing, is he not?! He’s way too young for me but I’m definitely in the Leo Wu Appreciation Society 😍
Hmm, a list of Jang Hyuk awesomeness… I feel like @DramaFan (AKA Stuck on Hyuk website – you might like a gander 😊) might be a better person for the task but I will have a go and post it over on kfangurl’s dedicated Jang Hyuk page on this website for you and anyone to comment on if they are so inclined. xx
He’s way too young for me but
you made me laugh hysterically!!!
all of them are too young for me, so what?
leo wu. i suspect that anybody who saw him as fei liu in NIF has a feiliu shrapnel in their heart, i certainly do.
in the galaxy i am on ep.36, but it’s kind of on the side for now as i am literally drugged by money flower.
do not know what ep. you are in, but the best shot of our feiliu/general is at the engagement party in the red rob- he’s totally smashing.
i am not familiar with dramafan, I’d rather wait for your list.
but listen, an idea came to my mind, see what you think about it. how about we have a similar to our group discussions now, discussions on certain actors/actresses that either KFG decides or us as a group. so every time we choose another candidate, and discuss their work in general, (dramas, movies) like YAI, jang hyuk, lee byung hun, JCW, chen kun, ni ni, wang kai and many more interesting actors. wouldn’t that be something different and interesting? we can attract fans for every artist we choose. and that can be not weekly, but may be even monthly, so we have a chance to check out the dramas that people suggest, and then share our notes.
That’s a brilliant idea @Eda Maybe email @kfangurl to suggest it!
i just noticed, it should be “healer”, not “hiller”. sorry.
Phew! What a fraught time on those last few episodes! Thank you for guiding us through them, and the whole group watch, with such aplomb, kfangurl. As usual you, and everyone who did comment (well, Eda basically 😄) have made the watch so much better and thought-provoking than it would have been on my own.
I’ve been hard on the series (I can’t help but say what I think – sorry if it’s seemed overly critical or negative… I try to be positive about the positives too 🤔) but it’s because I can’t half-heartedly watch or read anything. I either LOVE it or, well, dislike it. This show, well I loved parts but overall? It would have had a C in my scoring.
But what I did love was Xiao Le. He was adorable, kind, thoughtful, heart-breaking, sincere. Beautifully acted.
I also adored Tuo Ye and could stand the melodrama when it revolved around him because there was something authentic about his character – a kind of rough honesty I liked. He also looked often very handsome to me which helped 😊
Related to Tuo Ye was of course Chi Xin, and while I wasn’t keen on the trauma show put her through, I thought the actress did a good job of it. She really made me cry on numerous occasions. I hope she gets her happy ending with Tuo Ye – and judging by his rather goofy handling of the lotus flower, that seems a distinct possibility 😍
And I did enjoy lots about Vaness Wu’s Guang Xi. He handled things pretty well, right? Very understanding of both his mum and Mu Cheng. I know he’ll more than make up for those lost years from Xiao Le’s life. So in that way, I was satisfied by the ending, however ridiculous it was to get to it.
Anyway, looking forward to the next group watch. See you all there! 😘
“However ridiculous it was to get there.” — I agree!
and “ridiculous it was”!
no need to apologize, criticism can be just as valuable as praise and sometimes even more constructive. as for myself i totally appreciate openness and sincerity. after all we are not competing in diplomatic evaluations or comments, we just share our thoughts, and even when we disagree, we still learn from each other. so it’s all good.
i am off the topic – in the previous open thread of ep. 28,29,30 you posted a photo of jang hyuk. please tell me what drama is it from?
I literally use any excuse to post pics of Jang Hyuk (see reply above 😄) I think it was the one with the fan? That’s him as Bangwon in My Country: New Age. The drama is flawed but Jang Hyuk isn’t. He is excellent. I mean, utterly swoony. He rocks the look, swirls the fan, eats up the screen 😍 Did I mention I love him?!
Like MC (below), I just couldn’t bring myself to commit to this whole retro melo vibe, but I did enjoy reading the episode notes and comments each week. So thank you, all who participated!
(Also, I just watched Autumn in my Heart for some authentic retro melo vibe… I think, without actually having lots of evidence to back me up, that there’s a certain narrative esthetic from the early 2000s (which this show seems to definitely be drawing on) that can really be captured with the phrase “retro melo vibe.”)
Hey Fangirl and all the commenters – thank you for your participation and thoughts! While I didn’t watch the group watch I read along including the comments and it was a fun time. While this is a show that probably would’ve aggravated me and might have caused me to drop it, I still felt like I semi knew what happened thanks to all your commentary. Grateful for you all!
Many years ago, I had the pleasure of seeing Kurt Vonnegut give a lecture in which he presented his method of “graphing” a story; the “shape” that results shows what kind of story it is. In it, he noted that his least favorite kind of story is one that manipulates the reader/viewer by introducing ups/downs/ups/really-bad-downs and to end with the ecstasy of a to-the-moon-happy ending. But as much as one might quibble with this manner of story telling, it is both common and extremely popular (hello, Cinderella!). And I think that what we have with Autumn Concerto is exactly the same shape, but with more angst and lower downs than ever, thanks to the standards of classic dramaland, which extended to some over-the-top performances and exaggerated situations.
Overall, not to my taste, but there were elements I found engaging and I appreciated the chance to see a classic show, beloved in certain quarters, as its helps to understand the arc of Asian dramas as a whole. This is one of the reasons I love the group watches – to learn and understand the form even if I’m watching a show that, to be honest, I would not have chosen and might even have dropped just on my own. Thanks to kfangurl for sticking with it and contributing to my drama education. I also appreciate the fact that for pretty much every song, music performer, or TV show, there is someone out there who just loves it and might even consider it their favorite. So thanks to @Eda Harris for showing us the glass half full as we’ve moved along.
My final grade, sorry to say, would have to be a C, but I am a tough grader and use the whole range! And I’ve gotten enough Cs in my life and have lived to the tell the tale, so I know what it’s like to be on the receiving end.
Looking forward to the new format for group watches and seeing what’s in store there. I mean, just consider the variety we’ve been treated to with this last set of group watches: Healer, Heard It Through the Grapevine, Signal, Queen In-hyun’s Man, and finally Autumn’s Concerto. The tone, topics, and yes, quality are mixed, but what a great way to experience the rich vein of Asian television.
j3ffc, thanks for the honorary mention, (he he) glad i could contribute to your asian drama education, in some way.
helps to understand the arc of Asian dramas as a whole. This is one of the reasons I love the group watches – to learn and understand the form even if I’m watching a show that, to be honest, I would not have chosen and might even have dropped just on my own.
that’s the way to go – i share your enthusiasm.
i am again the first – setting a record for myself.
soooooooooooo… we got to the “promised land” -the long awaited good end. but there is a lingering feeling that just would not allow me to be quite happy, reason being mu cheng.
mu cheng: irredeemable. it’s like the soup was good but spoiled (the ending was good but mu cheng’s lies, stupidity and inability to stand up for herself made it semi-rotten.) throughout the entire show i could not master sympathy for this pitiful character.
the scene at the pool in the hotel (most annoying) – even when SHE knows that HE knows, and the future of their relationship is at stake, she still can not break free from lies, like this is the only tool in her tool box. and i wonder, what will it take for this girl to wake up and snap out of it?!
other than that, they (the drama people) sure neatly tied up all the loose ends, which is truly rare in those dramas. pretty amazing, no questions left unanswered, even yq’s happily married in the states, and president mama is now married too. wow! except for one issue, that keeps me up at night (don’t take me seriously). the ring. she did pawn it, so where did she get the same ring (or so it looked like) just over night? (no explanation) did she succeed to charm the owner of the pawn shop to give her the ring for just a few days? did anybody figure this out?
tuo ye’s story. he was like the honey for this bitter-sweet story, and i loved him for that. but… the entire arc with the gangs, violence, prostitution and more, presented to us at the very end – it just did not belong in this drama, sorry. it’s not that i am not able to deal with such things, it just became a drama within a drama, and may be if it was another drama i would evaluate it differently. but here it was just a disturbance and distraction to our ML and FL, and like KFG, i just wanted to see mu cheng and guang xi and their story.
now president mama, her bizarre turn around (did she have intense psychotherapy with non other than the ghost of freud himself?) and even more bizarre story with her husband and her son. i must say, she royally messed it up and all for guang xi’s GOOD. didn’t we hear it before? seems like this is her modus operandi stemming from her twisted brain. poor guang xi, drowning in lies since early childhood, no wonder he was messed up, no surprise to his reaction to lies. and yet, he forgives mu cheng. i would not.
the kidnapping? i have no words.
in conclusion i want to say that vanness wu carried this drama on his shoulders and of course the adorable xiao le – these two made me come again and again to this story, just to watch them.
if anybody wants to see vanness wu as a prince, with the most complex and multidimensional emotional acting there, and probably the most interesting character in this drama, check out princess wei young.
thank you to everybody who got involved in this and especially KFG.
and i am in complete agreement with KFG’s final grade, it’s a B.
now i can’t wait for next saturday (like a child on christmas morning waiting to open presents)- what did KFG prepared for us?
i think i should add, if it is not clear, i did enjoy watching this drama, especially for the second time.