Spoiler Zone: My Mister Episodes 11 & 12

Welcome to the Spoiler Zone, everyone!

This is for those of you who want to discuss spoilers, from a “I’ve seen the show and WOW now I’m noticing all these other details in retrospect” sort of angle.

Here’s a Spoiler Zone for you to dig as deep as you’d like, into spoiler territory, WITHOUT the need for spoiler tags or other warnings.

My only request is, PLEASE BE EXTRA MINDFUL OF WHERE YOU ARE COMMENTING. Meaning, please don’t get mixed up, and start talking spoilers in the Open Thread, which could seriously mar the watch experience for a new viewer, OR, a viewer who would really prefer to have the rewatch feel as fresh as possible.

Other than that, READER BEWARE: SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

For the main discussion of episodes 11 & 12, which only deals with spoilers up to the point of the group watch, go here.

ENJOY YOUR SPOILER ZONE, MY FRIENDS! ❤️

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10 days ago

I know the feelings that JA and DH harbor might seem like a mystery, and one reason is that unlike in other typical romance genres, such feelings were not laid out openly and early in this series, and were kept subtle all throughout. Another is that the feelings of JA and DH didn’t follow the same trajectory, they came to the fore at totally different points in the story. For now, these four scenes in episodes 11 & 12 seem to indicate that at this point of the show, Ji An’s love for Dong Hoon is romantic in nature:

1.      When Yoon Hee called JA to ask if she likes DH: That’s a typical scenario of a wife asking the other woman if she likes her husband, and apparently the context is that it is romantic in nature. And the situation when she called her – she was in the middle of driving and had to stop by the curb to make the call, indicates some sense of urgency to confront JA about it. And I liked how kfangirl put it – she was both saddened and relieved by JA’s answer. (Kudos indeed to Yoon Hee the actress.. That mix of emotions is very hard to pull through!) I felt some kind of approval in her tone, when she thanked JA for calling her for help.

2.      When Dir Yoon asked her if she likes DH: Since the purpose is to pin down DH for having an illicit relationship with a subordinate, that question implies JA liking DH in a romantic way. JA answered to the affirmative, but smart as she is, she spun the situation to appear that it is but natural for anyone in her position to fall in love for such a kind boss and manager.

3.      When she threw away the slippers: JA was obviously hurt when DH didn’t wear the slippers she gave, apparently she interpreted it as a rejection. The deeper you love, the deeper you hurt.

4.      Her whole spiel to DH in the train in ep 12, when she told him she did OT work because she missed him: “You didn’t make yourself clear. You made me like you even more. That’s not how you dump someone. You made me like you even more by saying all kinds of nice things. Don’t worry though. I won’t make it obvious.”
Mixing the terms “I missed you.. like you even more.. dump.. won’t make it obvious.” I don’t think one would combine the use of those terms to a feeling that’s platonic.

I think from ep 8 onwards, JA feelings has started to grow for DH, and it is definitely romantic in nature. DH’s feelings for JA follows a different trajectory, and at this point he is not yet confronting whatever is starting to brew inside of him, as there’s so much on his plate. JA was right, DH didn’t dump her, he was just not yet ready to deal with her. And that is symbolized by the slippers — he kept them at his cabinet, looked at them from time to time, but he’s not yet ready to take them out and wear them. And when JA threw them out, he requested for another pair, signaling what his whole spiel for her in the street meant– he is not ready to let her go just yet.

Elaine Phua
Elaine Phua
9 days ago
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Wow good points! Also the fact that she bought slippers… Its rather a wifely thing to notice that your man’s shoes (or socks, or shirt) are worn out and he needs new ones isn’t it? Not sure if there’s cultural significance in Korea on slippers. I’m guessing it’s not the typical thing a subordinate buys her boss. Maybe something more like ginseng supplements which they’re always buying on other K dramas due to product placement haha.

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9 days ago
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Yes, slippers are relatively a more personal gift than what we would normally give to colleagues. And that’s why on the two attempts that JA made to hand over the slippers, it was outside the office, because she was giving them to DH as a personal gift and not as his subordinate. 

the_sweetroad
9 days ago
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@actionscript and @Elaine Phua, good point about the personal nature of slippers!

the_sweetroad
9 days ago
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Nice breakdown of these episodes. I think of all the indications you listed, one of the key ones would be Yoon Hee asking – and understanding – that Ji An likes her husband “that way.” That’s what Do Joon Young had just implied to Yoon Hee on the rooftop after all. This plays into her feeling ashamed in Episode 15, that Ji An loved and cared about Dong Hoon in a way that she (Yoon Hee) hadn’t.

Also, there is a key moment on the rooftop where we peek behind the curtain into Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon’s current state of marriage. Yoon Hee tells Do Joon Young, “You can’t imagine the hell we’re going through…I have to put up with his loathing…I’m going to wait until he doesn’t think that we divorce because of you, but because of us.” (paraphrasing from memory; don’t quote me! 🙂 )

This echoes back to Do Joon Young’s comment to Young Hee when they met at that cafeteria in Ep 10: “Sunbae knows that once you know that he knows about the affair, you won’t be able to live with him.”

Once again Do Joon Young is so astute, knowing that Yoon Hee wouldn’t be able to live with DH once the affair was out in the open between DH and YH.

And of course, this talk on the rooftop also calls back to Ep 10 when the bar owner says, “I hate my wife. I hate that she’s trying. Either I wait 3 years and divorce her, or 10 years and divorce her.” YH tells Do Joon Young that DH loathes her. It’s too bad…but the bar owner already shared about it from his own experience, and it sounds like DH is having a similar experience of loathing a wife who cheated. (Probably because he, like the bar owner, also couldn’t stop thinking about his wife with the other man.)

So by now, Ep 12, I think we have an idea of how DH and YH’s marriage is going to go, IF we follow these clues.

eda harris
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8 days ago
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i accept all the points you bring up, and yet there is one lingering question or doubt in my mind, which you avoided here. dh tells ja  “if we run into each other decades later, i’m going to greet you, i ‘ll be glad to see you again”… how do you interpret this? to me it sounds like he does not have plans to include her in his future life, (or he would not have said it this way) if they meet “decades later”… so they are not going to be together and may be bump into each other years later. i have no doubts that they will never forget each other, and will forever consider each other friends that are grateful forever for their mutual contribution to their very existence in this lifetime.

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8 days ago
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At this point, DH is definitely still “friend-zoning” JA. He has been consistently being drawn to her subconsciously, but he himself has not acknowledged whatever is starting to brew inside him. For me, his feelings only started to surface by the end of ep 13 onwards, when he realized JA had quit the company and might have run away for good. It’s the classic case of realizing what you’ve lost after you’ve lost it. But we can see in his words and actions that he has been keeping a distance, quite evident starting in ep 13, and rightfully so. He is drawing the boundaries with JA, as he knew perfectly well it is the right thing to do. He is married, and JA is his subordinate in Saman. So anything beyond being friends is definitely inappropriate.

JA is smart though. When she told DH “That’s not how you dump someone” at the train in ep 12, she knew exactly what his whole spiel meant. Dh was not totally brushing off JA, he was just not yet ready to deal with her at the moment.

And putting that line “If we run across each other.. “ in DH’s spiel has a purpose. During their goodbye conversation in ep 14 at the phone booth, JA threw back that question to DH. The point is not what DH replied, but HOW he replied – his tone, his emotions, his overall disposition when he heard that question thrown back at him. He gave a forced “hmm” like he couldn’t bring himself to give a yes. That was the purpose of that line in ep 11, to serve as a call back in ep 14 when JA threw it back to DH and he couldn’t get himself to answer properly. 

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7 days ago
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I think it should go something like it’s a classic case of not appreciating what you have until you’ve lost it. 😆